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Are you this ridiculous about everything, or just soap opera castmembers?

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I cannot believe there is this much argument over Alicia "Pubic Hair of the Cranium" Minshew!

Kendall is not that important. The bitch is unnecessary, unpopular and totally recastable.

Thank you both for saying what so many of us were thinking!

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I cannot believe there is this much argument over Alicia "Pubic Hair of the Cranium" Minshew!

I don't think her hair is that bad. As for the rest...yeah pretty much.

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The problem is with bad writing, anyone is unpopular or unnecessary. I wouldn't say Kendall was either of those. But at the moment, I would agree the character needs a rest. That's down to the writing, mostly, so I don't think randomly hiring another actress and sticking her with the drek of recent years will be some success.

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The problem is with bad writing, anyone is unpopular or unnecessary. I wouldn't say Kendall was either of those. But at the moment, I would agree the character needs a rest. That's down to the writing, mostly, so I don't think randomly hiring another actress and sticking her with the drek of recent years will be some success.

But we just had a break from Kendall while she and Zach were on the boat and after this short time we need another break? That tells me that the character needs serious rehab.

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But we just had a break from Kendall while she and Zach were on the boat and after this short time we need another break? That tells me that the character needs serious rehab.

Most of the characters do. The main problem with Kendall is she became so defined by men, especially Zach, and she lost her edge, her backbone, vulnerability that went beyond cliche victimhood or stupidity.

I don't really think McTavish should be involved with any AMC startup but I do think if they bring Kendall on they should consult with McTavish about how to write for her.

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Most of the characters do. The main problem with Kendall is she became so defined by men, especially Zach, and she lost her edge, her backbone, vulnerability that went beyond cliche victimhood or stupidity.

I don't really think McTavish should be involved with any AMC startup but I do think if they bring Kendall on they should consult with McTavish about how to write for her.

The writing for Kendall as it has done for so many other characters changed when they recast to a great degree.I don't dislike AM she's pretty and likable but like Carly when Sarah Brown left the role, when Sarah Michelle Gellar left Kendall, the things that made these characters something special on todays soaps left. Kendall like Carly were both turned into heroines and victims because those were the only aspects of the character the actresses who took over could play.It doesnt make the characters unpopular but it changed them IMO so they became almost carbon copies of each other and just not that special. Heroines who run around canvas and yap at people and get in their faces on occasion, making them oh so strong because they can yell at people. THat was never who Kendall and never who Carly was. Its the same thing Days did to Sami although Ali Sweeney was and is a much weaker actress than SMG and SBr are. Give me Ari Zuckers almost anti heroine Nicole anyday.McTavish was a far better writer than Pratt or Sheffer/Higley were no question, but it doesn't change thefact that the characterizations changed, Some are/were ok with that and some aren't. If AMC has Lorraine Broderick and Agnes involved I really don't think McTavish is necessary and if Kendall and Greenlee are still written as the boring clones they have been for the past few years perhaps both are not needed on canvas any longer.

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To me both SMG and AM are actresses with a fairly narrow range, and when they know what to do in that range, they can work wonders.

I think AM was capable of playing the core of Kendall - insecure, bitchy, scheming to hurt others before they hurt her. The character changed, whether because of the actress or Frons, I don't know, but I don't think it was as severe as what GH did with Carly after SJB left. I think until B&E took over, Kendall was still recognizable - not where she was under Gellar, to be sure, but a document of what Kendall could have become if she'd found acceptance with her family, found love, etc. Only after B&E + Frons did I see the character die.

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Even if it's true that most of the characters need a rest, they are ALL getting what is likely to be a six month break right now.

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rolleyes.gif Wow that is not how I said it & think of it at all. Talk about hyperbole! rolleyes.gif And I'm ignorant for loving AM and thinking she & Kendall are important to the show today? LOL ok. Well thanks. And it's a fact she's a popular AMC Actress, not surprised you & others think otherwise.

I don't think they were referring to you. You love Kendall and AM regardless but you also like the other characters even if they get in her way.

Some people on this board will defend a character to DEATH and will HATE on the other characters just because the character does not get her way.. :rolleyes:

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rolleyes.gif Wow that is not how I said it & think of it at all. Talk about hyperbole!

Don't take it personally, R S types to everybody in a similar condescending manner as far as I've seen. ;)

Carl, ITA with your posts on the subject of Kendall. Watching these old episodes and some old clips, I may have just said it to say it before due to the current Kendall existing for 4-5 years now - but it really becomes clear to me Kendall didn't change as much as she did since B&E/2007 due to AM's supposed limitiations. It was due to becoming part of a so-called supercouple (I don't believe in supercouples after 1990) and the writers losing track of who she was due to the couple as they often do and due to B&E starting that endless hapless victim/heroine routine. I'm frankly surprised that didn't happen sooner because before AMC I recognized Thorsten Kaye as the guy who comes on shows and somehow ends of sucking the life out of the women I like.

Even if it's true that most of the characters need a rest, they are ALL getting what is likely to be a six month break right now.

IMO, it is true, almost all of them not only need a rest but they need a reboot. The writing over the past 5 years digged a lot of characters into a corner. I hope whoever is chosen to write the show in the future, including L. Broderick, uses this down time to think of a way to do a reboot of most of the characters and storylines. I don't want the characters to become unrecognizable like with Pratt, I just want them all taken out of the redundant, simple and extreme corner that the past 3 to 4 sets of writers put them in inclunding L. Broderick.

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IMO, it is true, almost all of them not only need a rest but they need a reboot. The writing over the past 5 years digged a lot of characters into a corner. I hope whoever is chosen to write the show in the future, including L. Broderick, uses this down time to think of a way to do a reboot of most of the characters and storylines. I don't want the characters to become unrecognizable like with Pratt, I just want them all taken out of the redundant, simple and extreme corner that the past 3 to 4 sets of writers put them in inclunding L. Broderick.

I'd also like for the show to feature the different social classes of Pine Valley. Rich, middle class, lower class. I'm also tired of all these under 30s running their own company and all these women working at Fusion. Speaking of Fusion, I hope they either blow it up or at least get a new set. I'm tired of the high school lockers in the background.

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J, I swear to Lavery I was just about to just come in hear and add just that. Everybody in Pine Valley is basically a rich bitch and it sucks. You don't see anybody struggling with money and class issues. That also takes away such a rich element from the show. Reboot!

1. Most of the women need to become layered BITCHES again. Bitches are essential to AMC. They're a main ingredient of this show. Almost all of the women in Pine Valley currently dream to have nice strong husbands and a bunch of kids or their life isn't complete. They essentially become one-note good girls to accomplish this supreme goal. Nuh-uh, stop with that. I don't want what Erica was on the last week of AMC because with Erica it's just redundant and never ending but there's a middle ground.

2. Different social classes. Bring back the Pine Cone. Bring back money struggles. That's also a primal ingriedient to what AMC was.

3. Stop writing almost all of the characters so essentially one note and simple IN equally one-note storylines. Watch the show pre-2007, and learn.

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Speaking of Fusion, I hope they either blow it up or at least get a new set. I'm tired of the high school lockers in the background.

I don't care if they keep or lose Fusion, but they need to stop making it the high school locker room for all women under 35 er 40. I think they can due to the fact PP doesn't need to use Fusion for cross-promotion to earn ABC extra money. All the non-doctor PV women working at Fusion needs to end as well. They also need to seperate Kendall and Greenlee professionally and socially, if they're both with the show, enough to make them frenemies again. Different companies for those two.

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Whoops, looks like the New York Times made a mistake, lol.....

This article has been revised to reflect the following correction:

Correction: October 10, 2011

A picture caption on Thursday with an article about the Online Network, which will stream new episodes of some canceled soap operas through the Internet, referred in some editions to a show that was not shown in the photograph. The picture showed a scene from “One Life to Live” — not “All My Children.” (A scene from that show appeared in earlier editions.) A credit also was omitted in later editions for the “One Life to Live” picture. It was taken by Lou Rocco of ABC.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/06/business/media/using-soap-operas-jeff-kwatinetz-plans-an-online-tv-network.html?_r=1

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