4 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

That butch haircut didn't help...

Did Jacquie get that haircut while she was still on OLTL?  I thought she just showed up on AW with that haircut upon her return.   It was certainly not a good look for Alice. 

Edited August 2, 20232 yr by Neil Johnson

9 hours ago, Neil Johnson said:

But Pat's romance with Adam Brewster occurred around 1979, and her relationship with Bo took place several years later -- around 1982-83.  

 

No, Pat's relationship with Bo was over long before 1982-3. They had fallen in love and gone to Paris in 1980. Adam Brewster was introduced in 1978 and lasted into 1979, but since the character was a dud, TPTB tried out other romantic options for Pat Kendall.

The Buchanan men came along in 1979. Pat and Clint had been tested out first (briefly), but the pairing did not click. They worked better as friends. Clint was traded off to Viki and Pat was partnered with Bo.

After George Reinholt left as Tony Lord, his character was recast with Jimmy Jontz, then Phillip McHale, and finally Chip Lucia. None of these actors set the show on fire. Lucia was a particularly baffling choice for the role. I'll always contend that Courtney's best couplings on OLTL were with Reinholt and Fuccello, and I firmly believe she and Zaslow would have clicked beautifully as well.

 

8 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

Did some checking-when the Adam Brewster romance was squashed, they went with the Pat/Maggie twin story, Clint had some interest in Pat at this time .Then in 1980 they went full steam with Pat/Bo. Asa wasn't happy and tried to break them up. Pat encountered Olympia and went into investigative mode, eventually leading to a break up with Bo, for most of 81 she was investigating Nicole/Olympia and close to Clint but just as friends. Tony Lord returned late 81 so he and Pat were involved and then married.Tony was written up so Pat was in limbo thru 82.

So by the time her contract was up, it seemed pretty clear that there was little interest in Jacquie/Pat. She was not frontburner and probably on big money.

 

I would disagree, since the show was clearly positioning Pat into David Renauldi's orbit, and the two of them were developing the familiar "antagonistic" interaction that so often later explodes into romance on soaps.

Then TPTB just dropped her.

 

8 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

With so many changes, they probably decided Viki and Dorian were enough in that age group and Jacquie was dropped.

That butch haircut didn't help...

 

The potential arrival of Paul Rauch, coupled with budgetary reasons, could have indeed precipitated Courtney's contract being dropped. But, what butch haircut? Her hair was lovely on OLTL. It was on AW in 1984 that it got hack off and slicked with gel. 🤮

4 hours ago, Neil Johnson said:

Did Jacquie get that haircut while she was still on OLTL?  I thought she just showed up on AW with that haircut upon her return.   It was certainly not a good look for Alice. 

JC's hair was lovely (IMHO) when she was on OLTL, and even when she first returned to AW in May of 1984, she had a decent-enough hairdo. But then, a while later, someone in the hair department must have been on LSD, because all of a sudden, Alice had a dreadfully-short haircut, and it looked like her hair was matted to her head. It was, as they say, "butch."

Thank God it grew out and softened before she left in  1985, and then in later guest appearances, her hair was nice again.

 

Jacquie did have her hair cut whilst on OLTL as seen in this photo.

As for Pat being front burner, I'm sure she was seen regularly as her contract would have stipulated but in terms of story,Pat had no real prominence. .After her marriage to Tony he is sent to Beirut and months later killed off.  I'm going by SOD synopses which I admit don't give a completely accurate picture, but Pat is hardly mentioned for months on end, even after Tony returns,which leads me to believe TPTB were not overly invested.

Maybe the David Renaldi stuff was a final attempt to bring her back to prominence, but as I said I guess by contract time they thought better of investing in the character for another 3 years.

32 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

Jacquie did have her hair cut whilst on OLTL as seen in this photo.

Yes, but personally, the only hairdo I've ever seen and heard viewers cringe over was that dreadful abomination on AW in 1984. I thought she had a lovely look on OLTL, throughout her different styles there.

32 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

As for Pat being front burner, I'm sure she was seen regularly as her contract would have stipulated but in terms of story,Pat had no real prominence. .After her marriage to Tony he is sent to Beirut and months later killed off.  I'm going by SOD synopses which I admit don't give a completely accurate picture, but Pat is hardly mentioned for months on end, even after Tony returns,which leads me to believe TPTB were not overly invested.

I think after the third actor in a row did not work out as Tony, the show must have been in a real bind. It was for the best that they killed Tony off and veered Pat off into another direction. The show did continue to use the character, however, and the writers certainly seemed invested, judging from the fun stuff they were starting to do between Pat and David.

32 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

Maybe the David Renaldi stuff was a final attempt to bring her back to prominence, but as I said I guess by contract time they thought better of investing in the character for another 3 years.

I think there were other, political reasons at play surrounding her dismissal, and not a lack of interest, since they were already initiating a new romance with a daytime legend for her. But in any case, there's no way any of us can know for sure what happened, four decades later.

Too bad that Zaslow wasn’t the Tony recast. He’d have been on OLTL FOR YEARS!

In fairness I believe they also tested Zaslow with ES early on. He was all over the mix before they settled on Jenny.

1 hour ago, antmunoz said:

Too bad that Zaslow wasn’t the Tony recast. He’d have been on OLTL FOR YEARS!

On the other hand, David was well positioned to be a long term cast member.  He was Dorian's ex-husband, and father to Cassie, who was becoming the central ingénue.

I also think his chemistry with Jenny was h-o-t.  He was the first romantic interest for her that wasn't either dying, a dweeb, or a manipulative lout.

http://clintritchiearchive.weebly.com/blog/soap-snaps-oltls-6000th-show
 

Does someone know when the 6000th episode aired.. To see Ivana Trump with the cast was hilarious there. Did she appear in that episode too?

I always assumed Jacqueline Courteney was let go because of Paul Rauch and their previous professional relationship. I know when he went onto SB he immediately fired Louise Sorel who he had had an off-set relationship with when she was on OLTL. 

 

Phillip McHale (Tony # 2) in a commercial for Skin Bracer(1979/1980)

 

 

I didn't know that actress Sharon Laughlin was cast as Victoria Lord but replaced by Gillian Spencer before the show began.

Edited August 9, 20232 yr by Paul Raven

On 8/3/2023 at 12:54 PM, chrisml said:

I always assumed Jacqueline Courteney was let go because of Paul Rauch and their previous professional relationship. I know when he went onto SB he immediately fired Louise Sorel who he had had an off-set relationship with when she was on OLTL. 

That has been the most widely-believed theory about her dismissal among fans from what I've seen. It was also commented upon in the soap press back in the day.

I suppose we will never know for certain, however. Courtney never commented publicly about the situation, and after she was abruptly dropped from the show, ABC only gave a brief, improbable statement "We had no storyline for the actress."

🙄

On 8/7/2023 at 9:33 AM, SoapDope said:

Phillip McHale (Tony # 2) in a commercial for Skin Bracer(1979/1980)

Actually, PH was the third actor to play Tony Harris, following George Reinholt and then (briefly) Jimmy Jontz.

"I didn't know that actress Sharon Laughlin was cast as Victoria Lord but replaced by Gillian Spencer before the show began."

 

The hiring and dismissal of Sharon Laughlin was discussed on this board earlier.   Evidently, she did appear on some of the commercials for One Life to Live before its premiere.

I would like to know more about this actress.

 

One Life to Live hired a lot of newcomers to daytime television for the 1968:  Ellen Holly, Lillian Hayman, Paul Tulley, Nikki Flacks, Jack Snell, Peter DeAnda) who were also seen with veterans (Robert Milli, Gillian Spenser, Lee Patterson, Doris Belack, Antony Ponzini, Millee Tagart,  Ernest Graves, Terry Logan).

Edited August 9, 20232 yr by danfling