I don't like this Cutter and Dorian stuff. He's being way too bold and Dorian is being begrudgingly charmed which I hate. Joey continues to be an unrecognizble idiot. It's like he fell and bumped his head. I was more interested in what Phyllis had to say about Cord and was mad that skank Aubrey cut off the TV.

Doesn't Matthew kind of physically resemble Clint when you look closely?

Uh oh, Joey knows Eddie?

Take a good unobjective look at Tess. If you saw her at the airport wouldn't you be like, "Who the [!@#$%^&*] does this heifer think SHE is? "

Whoever did Eddie Alderson's hair needs to be fired.

I don't hate Natalie at all. I'm actually a big fan of hers, but I fail to see how she's being thrown under the bus. Look at how much press and how much screentime MA/Natalie gets. I tend to go by what the promos are trying to say. Natalie is being written as the "Theresa" (character from that awful Passions that I used to watch) of Llanview. I do think John is being propped, but I see this as him being "biased". Well, not exactly, but does anyone really think the show sees John/Kelly together as long term? I don't think so, that's for sure. I still think John is the father of Natalie's baby.

The only other person mad at Natalie is Jessica. And Jessica doesn't even count, since she certainly isn't supposed to be a reliable narrator. If anything, she's definitely supposed to be biased, especially since Tess is OMG THE EVUL, as the writers want people to believe. They even gave Jessica a bumper all about how mentally ill and crazy she is, with the split of Tess and Jessica.

Viki, the voice of Llanview and OLTL, was never mad at Natalie for this. Brody has no problem forgiving her. We get scenes of Natalie bonding with the baby, whether it's Brody's or John's. I wouldn't be surprised if the show tries Brody and Natalie, but then again, Brody will probably be thrown under the bus for Ford, who is truly already giving Todd and John a run for their money. Cole got the same propping too during his whole time on the show before the show finally got rid of him, and that was only because Brandon Buddy had to leave for personal reasons...

If anyone is being thrown under the bus in THIS story, it's Marty. And I don't really think that's happening either. She's sure as hell not being propped, but she's being written as the bitch that she's always been.

Natalie was thrown under the bus the minute she slept with her mentally ill sister's (ex) boyfriend. Then the bus backed up over her when she found out that she was pregnant and didn't tell John the truth about the baby's paternity. Multiple treadmarks appeared over Natalie's back as she continued to lie. IMO the worst was when they made her so stupid that she believed that Marty would keep her secret. The writing threw Natalie under the bus, and it was entirely to make John sympathetic when he turned on her and immediately slept with Kelly. Natalie has no leg to stand on, and Viki hasn't given Natalie a pass. She expressed anger over Natalie's behavior when she was telling Charlie about what happened, but she just didn't kick her while she was down. Viki also justifiably called out Kelly on her questionable behavior. Even if you think Kelly and John are free agents, adults, who are not cheating or doing anything wrong -- Kelly has been a part of the Buchanan family for a long time, and her sleeping with Natalie's fiance (in Kelly's words) on what would have been Natalie's wedding night is pretty low for a family member. Just as Natalie was wrong to sleep with Brody.

Kelly's entire history is being glossed over to make her more sympathetic than Natalie.

And yes, Marty is also definitely going under the bus. And it is going to get much worse.

Dear Diary, things I never thought I'd say today: "My son is rotting in a Morroccan prison."

Everybody is so messed up and deceitful and looking out for number one, I can't even bring myself to be mad at Rex right now. I'm more impressed that the writers finagled both him and David into the Buchanan fold as we always assumed they would.

I hope Matthew's little hints he's throwing are a red herring.

LOL at Asa at the end. Ha, is there a hidden camera in the picture frame too?

Edited March 2, 201114 yr by SFK

rhino, Kelly, like Natalie, had drunken heartache as an "excuse". But Kelly didn't have the burden of keeping a dirty secret as the truth was out the very next morning. For all intents and purposes, John's relationship with Natalie seemed OVER-over after finding out that she slept with her mentally ill sister's husband and lied about her baby being John's, and John and Kelly getting [!@#$%^&*] -faced sure didn't help matters. Kelly may be a former in-law, but blood is still thicker than water. She did dirty by playing Joey/Kevin/Duke in the past, and really, that would have been enough to have cut her out of the picture a couple years back. To me, sleeping with John after a crazy night of drinking pales in comparison to her history with that family.

Careful Bo. That speech about David running off and not being family is starting to sound a lot like Clint...who sounds a lot like Asa these days!!!!

Enjoyed the Matthew/Nora scenes today. Hope Matthews place in this story is only a red herring and not something else.

Is something wrong with Dorian/Robin Strasser??? She is just not her self as of late, both in look and character.

Is something wrong with Dorian/Robin Strasser??? She is just not her self as of late, both in look and character.

I didn't watch today, but she's expressed her displeasure with the show and her airtime quite a bit on her hotline. I'm not sure if that ties into how she's playing her character though....

Is the hotline back up?? But yeah, I've felt that her Dorian's been off for a *while* now sadly. She's gotten better with some of the more recent Echo and Viki stuff. RS was saying almost 2/3 years ago how she never watches herself and caught a bit of herself on screen and felt like she was letting the fans down by not giving it her all. I think she was great just the way she was and has now ended up overcompensating and overselling Dorian, which unfortunately includes some of the more annoying aspects of the character's writing these days. A couple months back, it looked like she'd lost weight and her voice sounded tired, but she's been looking well as of late. I hope everything's okay!

She did dirty by playing Joey/Kevin/Duke in the past, and really, that would have been enough to have cut her out of the picture a couple years back.

Don't forget poor, dead Drew. Everybody forgets her instalove with Drew! Honestly, I love Kelly (or more accurately I love GT because I had no use for HT's Kelly) but Miss Thang's gone through that family like the flu at a day care center. LOL!

rhino, Kelly, like Natalie, had drunken heartache as an "excuse". But Kelly didn't have the burden of keeping a dirty secret as the truth was out the very next morning. For all intents and purposes, John's relationship with Natalie seemed OVER-over after finding out that she slept with her mentally ill sister's husband and lied about her baby being John's, and John and Kelly getting [!@#$%^&*] -faced sure didn't help matters. Kelly may be a former in-law, but blood is still thicker than water. She did dirty by playing Joey/Kevin/Duke in the past, and really, that would have been enough to have cut her out of the picture a couple years back. To me, sleeping with John after a crazy night of drinking pales in comparison to her history with that family.

Oh. I totally agree. Compared to the rest of Kelly's sins? This is nothing. But the rest of Kelly's history is ignored. I guess if you want to say Natalie sleeping with Brody when they believed John and Jess were through with them is marginally worse than Kelly sleeping with John when she seems to believe that he still loves Natalie and Liam and that he can still work things out at some point, that's a good argument. I don't see them as all that different but it's just me.

Again -- she is the most propped character ever. So complaints that Natalie is being propped just kind of make me laugh. Natalie is paying for her sins. Just because she wasn't ostracized from the family and left wandering in the snow barefoot, dressed in rags with her baby in her arms doesn't mean she isn't paying. I haven't seen anyone give Natalie a pass. They've all said she made a bad decision but they understand that she wasn't trying to hurt anyone. That's an accurate representation of what Natalie did.

Kelly's ultimate prop came when, after the frocking in the rectory and the tornado, Kevin was forced to choose who would receive treatment, Kelly or Duke, and chose Kelly. So Kelly shows up weeping and in a wheelchair at Duke's funeral, and griefstricken Kevin justifiably goes off on her, and everybody rallies around Kelly. So Kelly is alive today because Viki's grandson is dead, and yet Viki treats her like a long lost daughter.

Edited March 2, 201114 yr by rhinohide

Phyllis: "Its not easy being Jessica, or whoever she says she is this week. When that poor little rich girl says she isnt herself today, boy she isnt kididng. Like mother like daughter, I guess" LMAO!

Is Tess & Ford's marriage even legal? I mean given she's Tess and not Jess, but used Jess' name to get married?

I choose to believe this is Charlie's evil twin, Farley.

Join me, won't you?

Is Tess & Ford's marriage even legal? I mean given she's Tess and not Jess, but used Jess' name to get married?

I real life, hell no would that marriage be legal. On the soap? Im sure it is as being legal is what makes the story work

Phyllis: "Its not easy being Jessica, or whoever she says she is this week. When that poor little rich girl says she isnt herself today, boy she isnt kididng. Like mother like daughter, I guess" LMAO!

Wendy Williams was on today? Is it worth watching?