Yep Donnelly was one of the several victims of the power struggle between Scott and Alden there 2000-2001 until Scott's departure. While I'm not the biggest Susan Walters fan, looking back she did do good work with the poolhouse fire mystery and the writing for Diane still remained good into 2003 and 2004 with Diane being the persistent thorn until turned savior with bailing out Jabot from the brink of collapse with her divorce settlement money from Victor. Oh and throw in Andy's odd return too. I feel bad Walters wasn't invited back either just months after having appeared on the show.

As far as Walters leaving the show I can't remember why she left isn't/wasn't her husband Linden Ashby who was playing the Cameron story at the time? As was the standard for Y&R in 2004 her exit was pretty anti-climatic she left the time Lynne moved away.

Edited February 25, 201114 yr by soapfan770

Damn, Kristoff! How old is he? Because he's still got the body. In fact, I think KSJ looks better now than he did in his supposed heyday the 90s.

Age-wise, I'm guessing about mid-40s. IIRC, this month marks Kristoff St. John's 20th year on Y&R. Hard to believe he's been on the show this long.

+1.

Correction....I wish they'd let Diane throw Phyllis in a volcano. Someone called Phyll useless...ICAM. Good God, can you imagine all the airtime they'd have if TIIC weren't obligated to pen a "Phyllis confronts X unexpectedly" scene every. FRIGGIN'. Day?

Age-wise, I'm guessing about mid-40s. IIRC, this month marks Kristoff St. John's 20th year on Y&R. Hard to believe he's been on the show this long.

Kristoff is 44.

Yep Donnelly was one of the several victims of the power struggle between Scott and Alden

Nope.

They were both wanted her gone.

the writing for Diane still remained good

The writing was terrible.

Diane went from being Nikki's punching bag (who occasionally was allowed to fight back) & was still treated as a character in her own right (relatively) to being completely thrown under the bus for Giggly Heffa in every concievable way.

It was just atrocious.

I feel bad Walters wasn't invited back either just months after having appeared on the show.

It's for the best.

Walters may not have been the definitive Diane but she was a fine recast & definitely deserved better.

A LOT better.

As far as Walters leaving the show I can't remember why she left

Cause she had done her job.

Diane had gone under the bus as far as she could go (then at least) & was relegated to being a glorified extra.

Did Alex start the Phyllis/Diane Rivalry, or was it all Susan. For some reason it doesn't seem like Alex was really into Phyllis's buisness as much as she was to Nikkis.

Another thing that is kind of rousing my curiosity is the fact that after being such good friends in the 80's the first time Diane was on the show, They haven't gone back to the Lauren/Diane friendship. Lauren wasn't on the show anymore when they bought Alex back as Diane the first time in 1996, and even when Tracey returned summer of 2000, i don't believe they had a run in (Tracey wasn't on for that long anyway though) and then the following year when Tracey came back permantely, Alex was gone but Susan came on as Diane a few months later, and throughout that how time span (2001-2004) Did Lauren and Diane get to interact? and of course last week Michael and Lauren both ran into Diane, but nothing really came out of it as far as those two were concerned.

Did Alex start the Phyllis/Diane Rivalry

Alex.

And it was never a rivalry (at least at first).

Did Lauren and Diane get to interact?

Agenda driven writing.

Ever since Lauren became a Baldwin Fisher parrot she is only allowed to reference her pre Michael history if it's about Paul (all the time) or Traci (rarely).

Did Lauren and Diane get to interact?

Nope.

last week Michael and Lauren both ran into Diane, but nothing really came out of it

Which is sad since she had much more chemistry with him than Braeden, Bergman or Morrow.

Haha actually Deedee, i meant that nothing came out of Lauren and Diane last week, as it still no reference of their friendship, i agree that Diane did have great chemistry with Michael, but i guess one of the writers rules is that Michael and Lauren shall be the only couple that remains inseperable....

You also for forgot to mention Sheila as someone who Lauren is occasionally aloud to speak of, regarding this agenda driven writing for her.

i agree that Diane did have great chemistry with Michael

The weird thing is every Diane has but CLB has chemistry with just about everyone (when he's not on prop duty).

but i guess one of the writers rules is that Michael and Lauren shall be the only couple that remains inseperable....

And it's ruining them.

You also for forgot to mention Sheila as someone who Lauren is occasionally aloud to speak of, regarding this agenda driven writing for her.

Touche.

I think Maura also has chemistry with Joshua Morrow which is a minor miracle. But yeah, she and CLB sparked.

Phyllis (to Diane): "You have bounced from man to man to man. You never rily hold on to one long. I think we both know you're just a seat-warmer for Victor until he goes back to Nikki."

Really, writers? RILY? Your giving HER this dialogue?!

Still a little behind, just saw Neil and Sofia have sex...

I have to say, even as a straight male, Kristoff looked hot! When was the last time he had a love scene?

Really, writers? RILY? Your giving HER this dialogue?!

CanNOT wait for the day Phyll finds out Diane is Nick's squeeze. 'Cause you know it's going to be the one thing that might shut her up for five minutes.

*waves to PJ*

What's the deal with this show not submitting MTS for a pre-nom? If I were her, I'd quit.

Honestly, I do think Eva could've fit on the show had they paired her in scenes with people her age. She never had scenes with Chloe or anybody in her age range. Just all that ridiculous stuff with her "daughter" and whatnot. Like Sofia, they cast an actress way too young for the role. And to have a model and not have her involved in that Jabot model stuff was just silly.

This stuff with Neil and Sofia just screams "let's throw the black people together." It makes no sense from a story stand point and they have no chemistry so why go there? Sofia and Cane actually had chemistry together, other than that they haven't really tested her with anyone. I was hoping Daniel Goddard's inevitable new character could be paired with her. I still say Neil and Ashley should've stayed together. They had chemistry and were a legitimately good pairing. Unfortunately, most of their relationship was off screen but I think it was worth exploring. Now he's stuck with Sofia and she's stuck on the backburner in one of the worst romances of her character history.

Yes (for me) they did and acted well off each other more-so than Sofia/Neil and Sofia/Malcom she just doesn't have chemistry with them IMO she has it though with others.

I don't understand Victor's and Adams' arbitration agreement re: the trust

I think Maura also has chemistry with Joshua Morrow which is a minor miracle. But yeah, she and CLB sparked.

Phyllis (to Diane): "You have bounced from man to man to man. You never rily hold on to one long. I think we both know you're just a seat-warmer for Victor until he goes back to Nikki."

Really, writers? RILY? Your giving HER this dialogue?!

I like Nick and Diane too

Maura can act off JM very well for me she's damn good. I was disappointed MTS didn't get

an emmy nom.

Edited February 26, 201114 yr by Cyberologist

Why did Scott and Alden want Alex Donnelly gone? Was she unprofessional in some way? Onscreen she was great.