On 10/17/2025 at 2:26 PM, yrfan1983 said:

Here’s what bothers me about the beginning of the Victor/Nikki/Jack/Ashley quad…

 

It happens SO FAST, less than a year, after Niktor’s “fairy-tale” wedding, which overcame close brushes with murder by both Rick and Eve, Victor’s groin injury, and stupid lies related to Victoria’s paternity.

 

After the wedding, despite being extremely immature, Nikki does a fantastic job of fitting herself into Victor’s world: reuniting him with his mother, successfully pulling off the society charity ball, teaming up with him to gather info on the Mergeron family for his business deal.

 

The beginning of the rift is Jack enticing Nikki to be a Jabot model, which rubs Victor wrong.

 

This should NOT surprise Victor! He observed this scenario playing out in ’83, where Nikki insisted on continuing to strip after marrying Kevin. Victor should have been grateful that Nikki went to work at Jabot instead of returning to the Bayou!

 

Overall, Victor failed to acknowledge and appreciate Nikki’s true nature of enjoying the spotlight. This is really pathetic on his part, as he is a good two decades older and should know better. If Victor had remained faithful and supportive of Nikki, there wouldn’t have an opening for Jack to exploit. 

It's always interesting to me how quickly Victor and Nikki's first marriage collapsed.  It's amazing that for the majority of their 40 years on the show they were not married. 

On 10/17/2025 at 8:09 PM, Vee said:

I'm not sure that is controversial tbh. I think the Black audience is largely responsible for keeping Y&R where it is.

This! I can't begin to tell you how popular Y&R is in black Caribbean households. It's a shame that soaps remain majority white --especially compared to prime time tv -- when a good bit of their audience is people of color.

Not sure if this was posted anywhere, but this was one of my favorite background cues from Y&R. It sucks that the classic cues were removed in 2013. The dim lighting, luxurious sets, and mysterious background music were what made this my favorite soap.

Edited October 20Oct 20 by Planet Soap

3 hours ago, Planet Soap said:

.Not sure if this was posted anywhere, but this was one of my favorite background cues from Y&R. It's a shame what happened to the shows cues after 2013. The dim lighting, luxurious sets, and mysterious background music are what made this my favorite soap.

Love it, thanks! This brings to mind Brad in a Cage or the Rawlins murder.

13 hours ago, Planet Soap said:

I can't begin to tell you how popular Y&R is in black Caribbean households.

I've often wondered about Y&R popularity in English-speaking Caribbean countries, ie. Jamaica, Trinidad and Tobago, Barbados.

 

Rex Sterling’s memorial hit hard. They don’t make scenes like this anymore. Loved this era in Y&R.

All the creepy background sounds that the show used during any of Sheila Carters scenes were always my favourite. Made the hairs on my neck stand up 👀. I wish they could bring those back.

On 10/24/2025 at 2:20 PM, asafi said:

Rex Sterling’s memorial hit hard. They don’t make scenes like this anymore. Loved this era in Y&R.

You have that ep?

Can someone post a link to the vault?

2 hours ago, BigMAnOnDeck said:

You have that ep?

TV GUIDE 4/29/1995 

Old soap stars never die—they just buy a word processor. Nearly two dozen former daytime performers are now writing for soaps, and eight of them—including ex Young and the Restless stars Meg Bennett and James Houghton—are currently nominated for a Daytime Emmy. Chalk it up to the cutthroat realities of show biz. “It was my terror of auditioning that turned me to writing," says Bennett, who began scripting Y&R in the mid- 80s, even before her Julia Newman role ended. "But I've never quite given up the idea that I do both. I tested for an ABC pilot two months ago, and it came down to me and another actress. She got it. But now when that happens, I still have a job to go to."

A member of Y&Rs original cast, Houghton (who played Greg Foster) has written for the soap since 1990. “You could no more get me back into the turmoil of auditioning," he says, "than you could get a Vietnam vet to go back to Khe Sanh again." And if Y&R offered him his old role back? Laughs Houghton: “Гd snap it up in a second.” Не already has one Emmy for writing Y&R. A win this year for Bennett (who's nominated for General Hospital) would be particularly sweet: In 1986, in one of Emmy's blackest footnotes, she and her fellow Y&R scripters proudly walked to the podium to accept the Outstanding Writing trophy. Days later, academy officials confessed to a screwup and gave the award to Guiding Light.

Would Cindy Ambuehl have been a better ‘96 Ashley than Shari Shattuck…?

🤔

https://www.swooon.com/1240335/bold-and-the-beautiful-don-diamont-wife-cindy-ashley-abbott-young-and-the-restless/

6 minutes ago, yrfan1983 said:

Would Cindy Ambuehl have been a better ‘96 Ashley than Shari Shattuck…?

🤔

 

Of course.  But then again, the old mop in my utility room would've made a better Ashley than Shari Shattuck.  

Shari Shattuck was a nepo hire and her not passing the chemistry tests w/ EB and Don Diamont derailed a potential Victor/Nikki/Brad/Ashley quad.

59 minutes ago, yrfan1983 said:

Would Cindy Ambuehl have been a better ‘96 Ashley than Shari Shattuck…?

🤔

https://www.swooon.com/1240335/bold-and-the-beautiful-don-diamont-wife-cindy-ashley-abbott-young-and-the-restless/

Oh that sounds dreadful!

14 minutes ago, BoldRestless said:

Oh that sounds dreadful!

I know…if Shari is Choice A and Cindy is Choice B, can I choose #3, none of the above?