Members DRW50 Posted March 31, 2013 Author Members Share Posted March 31, 2013 I agree about Victoria - I think the character was done no matter who played her, because of sexism. Never seen this. I never knew Stephanie Williams did one of these. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNk_9DJAssM 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RestlessDuncan Posted March 31, 2013 Members Share Posted March 31, 2013 (edited) Victoria in the 90s was a very well written character. She was definitely Victor's daughter: strong-willed, independent and she was not afraid to speak her mind. She had also a vulnerable side (like 'Christian Miller') and that made her a complex character in all her relantioships. Heather Tom was (and still is) so talented: her Victoria was a leader, a Victor 2.0. I can understand why she left Y&R in 2003. The essence of her character had changed. Victoria was marginalized as business woman and her latest love interests weren't that great. Rafael was a b-storyline and the pairing with Diego was more focused on the Nick-Sharon-Diego triangle than on Victoria & Diego's feelings for each other. There were also long periods of no storyline at all for Vicky. I believe in Heather Tom's last months on the show producers and writers tried to revamp Victoria, giving her more space, a new house, a flirt with Damon Porter and the pairing with Michael Baldwin. I liked HT and CLB together, they started to have such a good chemistry (but I love Michael & Lauren). Victoria and Michael, both so smart and unique. Unfortunately Heather left the show soon after and the pairing was stopped. In 2005, when Vicky'AH come back to GC, visited Michael and found out that Lauren was his new love interest. Edited March 31, 2013 by RestlessDuncan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ann_SS Posted March 31, 2013 Members Share Posted March 31, 2013 (edited) Who was behind the decision to change Victoria's character? It is clearly sexism, but still it is a major and risky decision to change such a popular character so radically. It cost Y&R in the end and contributed to Smith's demise so there is some well deserved karma there. I never liked that they were using Victoria to redeem the horrible Michael so I was glad when that ended quickly. There is no way that I could buy Victoria being interested in Michael. Edited March 31, 2013 by Ann_SS 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted April 6, 2013 Author Members Share Posted April 6, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIpdbAlT7Ps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFh49O1AGyM 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted April 6, 2013 Author Members Share Posted April 6, 2013 Wow that Phyllis/Damon dialogue and scene weirds me out. I wonder if they had more plans for that Julie Pinson character. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted April 6, 2013 Author Members Share Posted April 6, 2013 (edited) More of Katherine boozing. This is one of those stories I've never kept track of. Holy crap, vintage flashbacks of Katherine boozing! I can't believe it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltjnV5fDxyA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MBmIQfaKzY Edited April 6, 2013 by CarlD2 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted April 7, 2013 Author Members Share Posted April 7, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmwTT5da0Ko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q07orMb5koY 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted April 7, 2013 Author Members Share Posted April 7, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLV0nLHBmPE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw9pG_IUmaQ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted April 9, 2013 Author Members Share Posted April 9, 2013 I'm having a problem with videobash lately so I apologize for putting so many videos here. Brenda's first day back as Jill. She already had that haughtiness in her voice. I wonder if this was how Deborah was playing her by the end? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va42rYRUHJE Nina Arvesen's channel is putting up some short clips I don't remember seeing before. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1SJMu9cXEQ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members will81 Posted April 9, 2013 Members Share Posted April 9, 2013 Thanks for the vids Carl. I am pretty sure Brenda's first scene back was with Marla Adams and occurred around Sep 9th 1983 (around that week anyway). It used to be on youtube. When Dina came to the Abbott house to visit and caught Jill drinking in the afternoon. They had a very deliciously bitchy fight. Actually the scene (footage not just audio) you posted audio of used to be on YT in an edited form, but had Jill talking to her mother about Kay trying to destroy her marriage as well. What you miss is when Kay says "You really are a......." she forms a c with her mouth before stopping herself, or so it seems, lol. There were so many scenes of Brenda's first few months, and a ton of Brenda's scenes from 1984 as well, but they have since disappeared. Too bad, I liked her in the first two years she was back. I wish they would be re-posted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted April 9, 2013 Author Members Share Posted April 9, 2013 Hopefully that will be up again soon. I also love some of the scenes put up recently where Katherine goes nuts after she runs into Clint Radison. Jeanne hams it up something fierce, in a way only she can. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-eurkMsYi8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpWCVenGgPg 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members yr9190 Posted April 14, 2013 Members Share Posted April 14, 2013 Kind of an odd, but interesting moment. Ashley and Traci actually talk a little about the Scott/Lauren situation and Ashley very casually talks about the "bizarre" things that happen with Sheila. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8pLPub76M0 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted April 14, 2013 Author Members Share Posted April 14, 2013 From the last year I really enjoyed Y&R. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR3C3yNSA1o That's not fair - I finally watched all your wonderful 1991 episodes and now you have more. I don't have the attention span I used to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted April 14, 2013 Author Members Share Posted April 14, 2013 I had to laugh when Ashley dismissed that year as "bizarre." I guess Ashley's history with psychos made her blase. I really miss Brenda Epperson. That's the same place (location) that April wandered around in when her husband was spying on her. Y&R must have made a deal with the town. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members yr9190 Posted April 14, 2013 Members Share Posted April 14, 2013 Haha, I just want to make sure everyone gets their daily dosage of classic Y&R I actually am going to upload the July 1991 episodes I just got in a little bit, but I just wanted to upload the one episode from 1993 first because I thought that Ashley/Traci moment would be interesting to see. I can't wait to upload those episodes, you get to see some of Victoria's scheming in breaking up Victor and Ashley, but most exciting is these are the episodes where Molly has the stroke at Fenmore's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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