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[DramatistDreamer]

Thanks. I may just check March ‘87 then.

[Khan]

Anyone would have made a better full-time replacement as Jack Abbott than Peter Bergman.

[yrfan1983]

Here's Brett's exact airdates:

Dec 08, 09, 10, 12, 15 1986

Mar 09 - 13 & 17 - 20 1987

[DramatistDreamer]

Thank you! Last night, I was watching the December 8th episode, dubbed in German. IMDB listed him as having credit in the December 5th episode, but when I had watched that episode previously in the Vault, Terry Lester actually appeared in that cliffhanger December 5th episode, although I realize that many continuing dramas liked to list actors in the credits before they make their onscreen appearance.

[asafi]

can anyone upload scenes of Brett's jack? what happened to Terry, sickness? 

[YRBB]

While not sex-on-a-stick, Bergman was wonderful with Jack's scheming, sometimes nasty, entitled, privileged businessman side of Jack.

But, when he turns the sappy on.... 

[Joseph]

It's ironic, If I walked into a place and Bergman and Lester were there, By Looks I would Flirt with PB, But Man When TL turned the Charm on, Darn one Gets to drooling!

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As I watched Terry's Jack I realized how sexy he really was! It's like Larkin Malloy as Sky on EON! 

It's actually ironic how most Crazy ladies Falling For Jack happened under Peter Bergman!

[kalbir]

TL Jack had so many layers. Playboy on the surface but deep down a lost little boy with mother abandonment issues that was always seeking his father's love and approval but messing up while doing so and not being able to live up to his father's expectations. Those layers got lost with the recast.

Edited December 6, 2023 by kalbir

[Khan]

God bless Peter Bergman, but he's basically playing "Dr. Cliff Abbott" (or "Jack Warner," whichever you prefer).

[yrfan1983]

I am currently watching 11/8/94 where Jack reveals to Keemo that he is Keemo's father, and Jack says "I honestly think you'll grow to like me" and I had to snicker as I never grew to like Peter Bergman's portrayal of Jack after 34 years 

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[YRfan23]

Haha you are too funny!!
 

as terrible as I use to think it was of Bergman to pretend Keemo and Luan never existed, I definitely understand not to a degree why he felt that way. The dialogue and scenes are More cringey then they are heartwarming IMO.
 

On 10/5 or 10/6/94, the biggest cringe for me is Jack and Luan’s reunion and the way Jack says: “Hello Mai-yung” with the hint of a Vietnamese twang in his voice!  

 

[yrfan1983]

 I can barely make it through all these scenes without fast-forwarding. They are so cringe. Elizabeth Sung and Phillip Moon were talented actors and it sucks that they were stuck with such stilted dialogue. 

[kalbir]

The Vietnam story was a rewrite since it went against established history. In 1983 when Dina arrived, it was said she left the family in 1971. The rewrite had Jack serving in Vietnam in 1971 so that made him an adult when Dina left.

Edited December 7, 2023 by kalbir

[YRfan23]

I wonder if the problem was, unlike Victoria Rowell who sort of guided Bill Bell with how to properly write for AA characters on the show, maybe both ES and PM didn’t step forward and offer their perspective to Bell with how to properly write for the Vietnamese culture….although I guess one could argue they weren’t both Vietnamese IRL, but still. 

It’s definitely a rewrite but to kind of fix that error, I would just have it that Jack quickly left for Vietnam in the months after Dina walking out on the family. Most people go into the army when they are 18 and just out of high school. 

Edited December 7, 2023 by YRfan23