I agree with Quartermainefan... I think any charges leveled of pay disparity are something that can be easily proven, so i'd be interested to know if this is really true, or if she's just blowing smoke up our asses like she does when she claims the show went to number one after she came on it. If she's pissed because Melody makes more than her, she'd have to deal with that, because Melody has 12 years seniority over her.

Kristoff seems to back her up on that claim too, and he's still on the show of course.

Go to 1:24 for the "spit take" and decide for yourselves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVr9LjTzVl0

Thank you

That, only Michelle knows for sure, but a provoking, humiliating, disrespectful act (unless you are a totally ignorant and oblivious person), yeah, I agree.

Right on the money. Provoking and disrespectful. Since none of us knew what was in Michelle's heart, none of us can make more of a judgement than that. But she IS a scientoloigst... so that right there should tell you she's two sandwiches short of a picnic.

Edited August 29, 201015 yr by alphanguy74

That, only Michelle knows for sure

The fact that she NEVER did it to another actor BEFORE, DURING or AFTER pretty much says enough.

The bottom line is that if it wasn't racist why the need to pre meditate such behavior THEN make excuses?

In this clip the actor gets water spit in his face, whereas Phyllis spit on Dru's coat. I'd take the Y&R scene over the Golden Girls clip if I were an actor in that scene, as long as I was aware of this happening before it did.

Of course the difference here is that Allan Rich knew that Rue McClanahan was going to do that. VR wasn't offered the same courtesy by her scene partner, director (shame on him/her if MS ran this by them and they said nothing to VR), let alone the script.

If she's pissed because Melody makes more than her, she'd have to deal with that, because Melody has 12 years seniority over her.

Which as usual is totally skewing what she actually said.

What she said was that actors who had less tenure on Y&R than Kristoff made more.

I agree with Quartermainefan... I think any charges leveled of pay disparity are something that can be easily proven, so i'd be interested to know if this is really true, or if she's just blowing smoke up our asses like she does when she claims the show went to number one after she came on it. If she's pissed because Melody makes more than her, she'd have to deal with that, because Melody has 12 years seniority over her.

I don't doubt that it's true, black non-soap actors have talked about pay disparity, so if it happens in other parts of the industry, it happens in soaps.

An actor should never ad-lib a spit take or spitting on another actor. Elizabeth Hubbard said in an interview that she wanted to ad-lib spitting on an actor for a scene, but clearly stated that she asked the actor first. That's how professionals do it.

Exactly. And the worst excuse is, "Well if I ask them, they might say no."

The fact that she NEVER did it to another actor BEFORE, DURING or AFTER pretty much says enough.

The bottom line is that if it wasn't racist why the need to pre meditate such behavior THEN make excuses?

She could simply not like Vicky and want to piss her off. it could be becaase she's black, but it also could be because theyr'e too much alike, being mouthy demanding cows. One should at least entertain the possibility that they hate each other for personality reasons.

Right on the money. Provoking and disrespectful. Since none of us knew what was in Michelle's heart, none of us can make more of a judgement than that. But she IS a scientoloigst... so that right there should tell you she's two sandwiches short of a picnic.

But I love clam chowder!

Which as usual is totally skewing what she actually said.

What she said was that actors who had less tenure on Y&R than Kristoff made more.

Ok, then... she needs to give us the numbers and let's see the proof.

She could simply not like Vicky and want to piss her off.

So she PERFECTLY got along with every other actress/actor she ever worked with & never thought of such a genius IDEA to "enhance" the million rivalries the character has had over the years.

It's all coincidences.

Right.

but it also could be because theyr'e too much alike

They're nothing alike.

Thankfully.

Which as usual is totally skewing what she actually said.

What she said was that actors who had less tenure on Y&R than Kristoff made more.

And he acknowledged it.

Ok, then... she needs to give us the numbers and let's see the proof.

Kristoff supported her assertion.

That's more than enough.

Edited August 29, 201015 yr by DeeeDee

Which as usual is totally skewing what she actually said.

What she said was that actors who had less tenure on Y&R than Kristoff made more.

I'm of the logic that actors should be paid right in line with their seniority on a show like the rest of American companies tend to do, but in Hollywood that will never happen. We can't say that Kristoff is getting less than some of those less senior than him because of the color his skin, since if he is getting less than those people, there could be other factors in play. TV and Movies tend to pay you more for your popularity more so than your seniority in the industry. That's not to say Kristoff and his character Neil Winters isn't popular, but a company tends to reward those who bring current success. Past successes are never remembered as we all know, I'm sure. It is all about the here and the now.