During LML's tenure, Eileen Davidson made some comment about how the character of Gloria always got the last word, implying that the Abbotts were being "brought down" in order to pimp Gloria. Well, LML looooooved Gloria, and a few weeks later, Ashley was being written off the show.

I'd say that has way more to do with Eileen hating Lethal for busting up her marriage with Jon Lindstrom(ALLEGEDLY) than Judith Chapman.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to insult you, I was mostly talking about her comments.

I can see them writing her out for her criticism of Gloria but really I think Ashley has been a dead end character for years, and I agreed with LML's decision to write her out. Her stories since her return just reinforce that for me.

On who does and doesn't get along, it's interesting to me that Brenda Dickson still seems to be close to Jeanne Cooper, since Cooper seems very no-nonsense. Perhaps she sees that person Brenda was a long time ago before she started having problems.

I wasn't insulted. I just do not know how to explain the discrepency!

Ashley has always been one of my favourite characters -- I think the first time I ever watched Y&R, she was in the scene (with Terry Lester)! That's how connected she is to Y&R in my mind. But I can see that the sperm-stealing damn near ruined the character. Ashley was actually a lot stronger and more with it in the 1980s than her nervous breakdown back then would suggest. Too bad the late 90s and 00s were spent continually revisiting that Victor/breakdown dynamic.

I was glad when B&B took her on and returned her to the Ash I remembered from back in the day. I thought Y&R might go the route of an Adam-Ashley affair when Chris Engen was in the role but, as we know now, that was far from the case. Sigh.

Some would argue that MTS has also played a dead-end character for a while but, see, I love both Nikki and Ashley and couldn't really bear the show without either of them.

As for Brenda Dickson and Jeanne Cooper, I think JC must know the real Brenda, underneath the fame, gold lamé, affected accents, marriages and (alleged!) mental breaks. Brenda essentially grew up on Y&R in the 1970s. I could totally see JC mentoring her as they both started getting SLs together. Brenda was such a fresh, soulful, unspoiled presence on Y&R in the 70s -- from what I've seen.

It's kind of a cool friendship! And it has not stopped JC from being close with Jess Walton, either.

I'd say that has way more to do with Eileen hating Lethal for busting up her marriage with Jon Lindstrom(ALLEGEDLY) than Judith Chapman.

OK. Now THIS you must SPILL!

LML was a vixen?

Really? Her?

Thank you, Cat!

OK. Now THIS you must SPILL!

LML was a vixen?

Really? Her?

LOL. I have nothing to add. It was something I heard second hand from somewhere that Eileen was fired because "the producer" had been sleeping with her husband or ex-husband or something like that. Well put two-and-two together(coupled with the fact that Jon Lindstrom had worked with Lethal on Port Charles) and that was my assumption.

So you're sayin' Lethal slept with another man while married to Lechowick?

Woah. I would have thought men would be beating a path to Eileen Hottieson's door WAY before Latham's but 1. I'm biased, 2. I'm not a guy and 3. I'm biased.

So you're sayin' Lethal slept with another man while married to Lechowick?

I'm just telling you what I heard. LOL. I don't know if it's true or not. Just what I heard in terms of why Eileen was "let go" from Y&R during Lethal.

Woah. I would have thought men would be beating a path to Eileen Hottieson's door WAY before Latham's but 1. I'm biased, 2. I'm not a guy and 3. I'm biased.

Power is one helluva date rape drug.

On who does and doesn't get along, it's interesting to me that Brenda Dickson still seems to be close to Jeanne Cooper, since Cooper seems very no-nonsense.

Not just Jeanne, apparently. Thom Bierdz, as well, still appears to have a good relationship w/ Brenda Dickson, as well.

I realize the girl caused problems for Papa Bell and several of her co-workers on the set, but perhaps Jeanne and Thom put up w/ her (even today) b/c they knew that despite all the drama off-screen, she also brought the drama on-screen, too.

I'd say that has way more to do with Eileen hating Lethal for busting up her marriage with Jon Lindstrom(ALLEGEDLY) than Judith Chapman.

LOL Eileen did that all on her own.

Basically, Eileen is a sh!tty actress. With her sleepy, dreamy look in the eyes and all that, she only shone briefly on B&B. And that's it. It didn't help that her character got thrown under the bus (d'oh).

Thom Bierdz, as well, still appears to have a good relationship w/ Brenda Dickson

Thom is a sweetie.

Tricia Cast LOVES him.

So you're sayin' Lethal slept with another man while married to Lechowick?

Woudln't you sleep with another man if you were married to Lechowick?

Not just Jeanne, apparently. Thom Bierdz, as well, still appears to have a good relationship w/ Brenda Dickson, as well.

I realize the girl caused problems for Papa Bell and several of her co-workers on the set, but perhaps Jeanne and Thom put up w/ her (even today) b/c they knew that despite all the drama off-screen, she also brought the drama on-screen, too.

Brenda is an enigma. Her public persona is much different than if you speak to her one on one. Basically she's incredibly vain and very flaky... but also sweet.

Basically, Eileen is a sh!tty actress. With her sleepy, dreamy look in the eyes and all that, she only shone briefly on B&B. And that's it. It didn't help that her character got thrown under the bus (d'oh).

Wow that's harsh.

I always enjoyed Brenda Epperson's Ashley, I wonder how the cast felt about her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLPbyg_jdnQ&feature=related