what does everyone have against michael learned? I would much rather watch shirley and liz then liz and lucky or nik arguing all the time.

I think Michael Learned has provided a lot of spunk to the show.

I don't know about everyone else, but I don't like her. I never could stand Michael Learned, and I think the Shirley character is annoying.

Beulah has her problems, but that may have been the only time I approve of Epiphany playing boss.

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I think Shirley was added to help redeem Elizabeth and I think she's been more tolerable in scenes with her, well at leas until yesterday when Nik entered the picture

Man, Carter is so pretty!

Patrick is such a douche. I honestly don't blame Snobin for wanting to get away from him for awhile.

UGH! This is what bothers me about Guza...you can't just build up to these Scrubs breakup and then let everything just explode in one or two episodes just out of nowhere. Why rush it? You've yanked our chains for this long. Give us more than two episodes of this. And give us logic, please!

Patrick's motivations have wavered. It's like one minute, he's mad at Robin because he's ashamed of being a husband and father and the next, he's mad because Robin actually finds a life outside of her marriage and he says "You're pushing me and Emma away."

I mean, if you want to write an affair, then just have Patrick and Lisa f*ck already. There's no need to "justify" the cheating. Many men cheat for no reason at all. And Patrick can definitely be the douche that Guza loves to write. But there's no need to just BLAME Robin for this.

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Patrick is such a douche. I honestly don't blame Snobin for wanting to get away from him for awhile.

I like the fact that Patrick's a douche, but with the way this is being written, he's giving out alot of mixed signals. I can't blame Robin for just giving up on her marriage if he's basically waffling and blaming her and looking for an excuse to cheat so he can blame it on her later.

Let me guess: Robin Christopher wasn't available for taping the day of the fantasy sequence?

I mean, if you want to write an affair, then just have Patrick and Lisa f*ck already. There's no need to "justify" the cheating. Many men cheat for no reason at all. And Patrick can definitely be the douche that Guza loves to write. But there's no need to just BLAME Robin for this.

Guza always has to justify affairs. Liz was in love with Nikolas when she cheated on Lucky. Carly and Jax are apart so she sleeps with Sonny. Patrick isn't just going to sleep with Lisa. He is going to have to an excuse. I wonder what Guza's wife thinks of this. She can't be fool enough not to see the subtext in Guza's writing.

Guza always has to justify affairs. Liz was in love with Nikolas when she cheated on Lucky. Carly and Jax are apart so she sleeps with Sonny. Patrick isn't just going to sleep with Lisa. He is going to have to an excuse. I wonder what Guza's wife thinks of this. She can't be fool enough not to see the subtext in Guza's writing.

Meg Bennett's always been too good for Guza. I mean, just look at him and look at her.

Probably a typical Hollywood arrangement.

Guilt.

Bensonhurst Hoes!

Meg Bennett's always been too good for Guza. I mean, just look at him and look at her.

Probably a typical Hollywood arrangement.

Maybe. It does appear that she has less money and influence than he does in the industry.

Guilt.

Likely. I can see Guza telling his wife that she made him cheat. He practically shouts it in all his writing.

worst triangle ever. Patrick, Robin and a dead rock

worst triangle ever. Patrick, Robin and a dead rock

At first, I thought you were talking about Lisa and then I had to look again.