I don't like to think about Jamal and Allison, it depresses me, and also leads to memories of Rafe the vagrant, stuttering angel.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE.

Don't even get me started. Didn't Jamal push Alison away because he blamed himself for Valerie's death? I just remember they continually trashed Jamal to promote Alison/Rafe and I remember that pissed me off so bad. It all just kinda came out of nowhere. And I stopped watching regularly after Brown/Esenten turned PC into Twilight.

I also remember when Rafe/Livvie became an item, they pushed Alison onto Jack instead of her ex, Jamal, which would have made more sense to me. I remember when she and Jack celebrated her 21st Birthday(IIRC, they aged the character a bit to do this) and I was so mad, especially considering Jamal was the one that helped Alison celebrate her 18th at his apartment at the Recovery Room.

We were supposed to love that because Jack and Allison were together in real life. It was a shame seeing just how badly Erin Hershey's acting fell apart once they put her with Gaskill.

Wasn't B&B a very highly rated show among black viewers for a long time, in spite of not having any black characters on their show beyond the occasional stints here and there (like Stephanie's homeless friend and her nephews, and later, Lark Voorhies).

Jack and Alison could have been good together. I liked them and only wish the show went forward with them but they were only an obstacle to Rafe/Alison

Was it Tyler Perry who said (on "Oprah"?) how his success had enabled him to buy his mother a large home and hire her a maid like "Mrs. Chancellor" on Y&R? You would think most, if not all, African-Americans would resent seeing an older, wealthy Caucasian woman living "up on the hill" in a town w/ a minimal Black presence; yet, for most AA fans of Y&R, at least, it was almost as if they were living vicariously through Kay (and Victor). If they couldn't tolerate anyone, it was Nikki, who was just some "big-boobied ho" who suddenly felt entitled on account of the rich man who took her out of the gutter, cleaned her up and married her.

It was to Barbara Walters, but yes, Tyler Perry said that. And I agree that there's always been a degree of vicarious living. Dynasty was extremely popular in the black community (well, at least judging from my experience), and a beautiful black woman like Diahann Carroll playing rich and dressed Dominique Deveraux only made the experience next level. I might be so bold as to say that more than any other group, black women have been the most influenced by soap style, in terms of dress and even the way they decorate their homes. Not ALL black women of course. But if you're going to see an American woman dressed like this:

she's probably black and on her way to church.

We were supposed to love that because Jack and Allison were together in real life. It was a shame seeing just how badly Erin Hershey's acting fell apart once they put her with Gaskill.

Word.

Wasn't B&B a very highly rated show among black viewers for a long time, in spite of not having any black characters on their show beyond the occasional stints here and there (like Stephanie's homeless friend and her nephews, and later, Lark Voorhies).

That may have been because of B&B having a strong lead-in for years with Y&R.

It was to Barbara Walters, but yes, Tyler Perry said that.

I think it's only a matter of time before Tyler Perry does a soap opera/telenovela/serial type drama for TBS or a cabler. It's in his veins to do it.

I don't really like or appreciate him for the shady way he treated his sitcom writers, but I do think a soap project that either he created or produced would be a good thing.

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What happened with his writers?

I can't say that I enjoy his sitcoms, I don't really find them funny. I haven't seen any of his movies, but I have seen some of his plays taped live and they were pretty hilarious. Heavy handed Chitlin' Circuit-type stuff, but plenty of LOL moments.

If he could assemble a decent writing team, I would LOVE it if he launched a soap on TVOne, not even daily, maybe a weekly or bi-weekly Degrassi-like schedule or something.

I might be so bold as to say that more than any other group, black women have been the most influenced by soap style, in terms of dress and even the way they decorate their homes.

I know for a fact the dark paneling in (the original) Cortlandt Manor on AMC influenced my mother greatly in terms of how our home was decorated over 20 years ago.

I can't say that I enjoy [Tyler Perry's] sitcoms, I don't really find them funny.

Neither do I, although I think "Meet the Browns" is marginally better than "House of Payne" in terms of how each episode is structured.

On the one hand, I can't knock Tyler Perry's success; obviously, a tremendous amount of people enjoy his work, or else, we wouldn't be talking about him. And it isn't that I have qualms with his tendency toward flat characterizations and broad humor. His deficiencies could be forgiven, however, if his grasp of plot development were stronger. As it is, I wince whenever I watch any of his plays or movies, b/c events that occur within a given piece are just so arbitrary and random, w/o proper build-up or follow-through.

Seen one Tyler Perry movie, and you've seen them all...

I know for a fact the dark paneling in (the original) Cortlandt Manor on AMC influenced my mother greatly in terms of how our home was decorated over 20 years ago.

For us, it was Erica's mauvey-pinkish contemporary Linden.

For us, it was Erica's mauvey-pinkish contemporary Linden.

Oh, I adored the original Linden House. True, it was a rip-off of Erica's NYC apartment, but I just loved the feelings of class and sophistication that that set evoked.

It's in his veins to do it.

Yep.

Don't even get me started. Didn't Jamal push Alison away because he blamed himself for Valerie's death? I just remember they continually trashed Jamal to promote Alison/Rafe and I remember that pissed me off so bad. It all just kinda came out of nowhere. And I stopped watching regularly after Brown/Esenten turned PC into Twilight.

I also remember when Rafe/Livvie became an item, they pushed Alison onto Jack instead of her ex, Jamal, which would have made more sense to me. I remember when she and Jack celebrated her 21st Birthday(IIRC, they aged the character a bit to do this) and I was so mad, especially considering Jamal was the one that helped Alison celebrate her 18th at his apartment at the Recovery Room.

I never watched Port Charles, but I was always under the impression that Rafe/Allison were very popular.

They were at first but I think a lot of people got sick of them.