When I really started watching Nikki and Victor were already fully dysfunctional so I never saw them as "romance" I always felt liek that was some sort of smoke screen. Honestly even in the beginning where Victor tried to transform Nikkis ays much about their relationship eversince. The sickness in the dynamic stems from the fact that Victor must never be wrong so when he's in the wrong his truth or comeuppance is never established it is just brushed over

Nikki shines when she's away from Victor

Yes she does.

Too bad Braeden doesn't like it though which is why she always ends back with him.

For me, they are like Nik and Sharon. When the show ends, they need to be together, but until that day, I enjoy them so much more apart. Nikki shines when she's away from Victor, although the days of MTS getting enough airtime to shine may be long over anyway.

See, I feel the exact opposite.

I can't stand Victor or Nikki as individuals, but they really shine when they're together. That's the only way I can stomach them, when they are alone in scenes together.

Wait til you Americans get a load of what's in store for you in tomorrow's episode!

Are you referring to the hideous Ashely

dream

, catsmeouch?

Or Sharon's awful

dream

?

It was really badddd.

Edited March 2, 201015 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

All of it! Both of their stupid dreams! Oh, what a pathetic waste of an hour.

These fakeouts and dreams are a bad and cheap imitation of Passions. At least they made sense on that show.

Victor's best story ever in my opinion had to be when he was on Hope's farm. Nikki's best story I've seen was her drug addiction story in the early 90s. While I do think both Victor and Nikki shine together, I would like to see them shine more on their own. Victor's been able because he's had better track record of pairings than Nikki's had.

I really wish Sheila was causing a ruckus on the even more craptastic B&B. Yes believe it or not there are soaps that worse than Y&R's present state.

I haven't watched last weeks but did catch tomorrow's US show, what a stinker. But the ratings will stay the same and Maria and company will think they are shitting gold.

what the hell was the point of that dream state episode it was bad. Y&R is now slow turning into passions.

just because a couple worked years old doesn't mean it works now. nikki and victor now suck together the relationship is all about the control victor has over nikki. he can treat her like crap. abuses her emotionally and verbally and yet she still comes coming like a dog to him, its sick and degrading to women. instead of actually dealing with victor abuse the show just sweeps it under the rug and call it love. this gives out the wrong mesage to people who are dealing with abuse in real life or have survived it.

nikki shines when she is not around victor its just the current writers hate her and see her as a prop for victor.

I loved when nikki was hanging aroung with bobby in the club thats when nikki really shined. MTS and john enos had amazing chemisty together pity EB had to complain about it.

Frankly, we all should kiss what this show once was goodbye and stop wishing for what was..it is never coming back..LIKE EVER, POOF GONE!!! And certainly not with this current writing regime.

Now back to the show Phyllis will never be the old Phyllis again, the character has been written differently for some time now and as a Phyllis fan I love it that way. I like that they can mix it up with the character whenever they bloody well feel like doing it. And not some past pre-conceived notion of what Phyllis should be like at this stage. Frankly I am enjoying and am very much amused at the reactions from those who politely refer to Grambo & Giggly Heffa ....I expect to see more of it. ;)

I have always loved Victor/Nikki together, not entirely because of the way they were written (even though their relationship is dynsfunctional)but because EB & MTS had such wonderful chemistry that no matter if their characters were separated I always wanted them back together..but this time it is as if the life has been sucked out of them..it's so hard to watch them now...oh wait, Nikki is never on anymore.

Edited March 3, 201015 yr by JimTolkien

Nikki doesn't matter to this writing regime, contract or no contract. They've ignored her since day one, so I'm not totally buying this new contract and new guarantee mumbo jumbo, it doesn't ring true.

Edited March 3, 201015 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

When they aren't ignoring Nikki they are brutally thrashing her character.

I just wonder if all those who said the show couldn't exist without Victor are enjoying his return.

When they aren't ignoring Nikki they are brutally thrashing her character.

I just wonder if all those who said the show couldn't exist without Victor are enjoying his return.

I love Victor (more than I like EB ) and I am happy he is back...but the writing is so AWRY that I don't feel the normal energy that I usually feel when I watch the character. But since I am happy he's back and he's p#@ssing everybody off, I will suck it up LOL!

When they aren't ignoring Nikki they are brutally thrashing her character.

If she married a Baldwin Fisher she would be on every day.