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Plastic Surgery of the Soap Stars

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Tony has definitely had a facelift(s), and he's worn a hair piece for years. He was on some talk show years ago and a woman in the audience asked if she could run her fingers through his famous curls. He obliged but held her wrist and kind of *patted* her hand against his head. :P He was on The View to promote his book a while back and he wore a cowboy hat (bald undereath) and his face was obviously pulled from surgery.

I've read that Tom was told that he cannot have any more eye work. He's got owl eye.

Wayne Newton is also no stranger to the scalpel.

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My dad's a big fan of Tom Jones and Engelbert Humperdinck, so I grew up listening to all their music. Engelbert's transitioned nicely into "old age," I think, despite the obvious sign of age (i.e., sagging jowls, increased girth, receding hairline, etc.). Then again, Engelbert's image was never as overtly sexual as Tom's; he's allowed to grow older, IOW. Tom, unfortunately, pretty much built his career on raw, masculine sex appeal (despite having the more interesting voice, IMO), so he probably feels the pressure to retain that image, even if it has turned him into the male Mae West. In a way, I feel sorry for the guy. I truly do.

Engelbert Humperdinck has aged far better than Tom Jones because he didn't fight it to the point of ridiculousness. If he's had anything done, he's done it to look good, rather than look young.

Tom Jones' problem is that he's tried to look young, rather than just look great for his age. I think he could have kept his sex appeal, Sean Connery's done it with only the bags under his eyes getting nipped and tucked. I think he had one idea in his mind about how he should age and it just wasn't the right way to go. Lucky for him, his voice has stayed with him and so he endures.

Sex appeal, in my opinion, isn't really about looks, it's about attitude.

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My dad's a big fan of Tom Jones and Engelbert Humperdinck, so I grew up listening to all their music. Engelbert's transitioned nicely into "old age," I think, despite the obvious sign of age (i.e., sagging jowls, increased girth, receding hairline, etc.). Then again, Engelbert's image was never as overtly sexual as Tom's; he's allowed to grow older, IOW. Tom, unfortunately, pretty much built his career on raw, masculine sex appeal (despite having the more interesting voice, IMO), so he probably feels the pressure to retain that image, even if it has turned him into the male Mae West. In a way, I feel sorry for the guy. I truly do.

In high school Journalism class we learned about Engelbert suing the Enquirer for writing that he had AIDS. :o

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I remember how a generation who hadn't seen Wayne in a while were a bit horrified by his DWTS run...(as they were with poor Priscilla Presley).

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In high school Journalism class we learned about Engelbert suing the Enquirer for writing that he had AIDS.

Ah, yes, I remember it well, lol. That was before their exclusive about John Edwards's affair with Rielle Hunter turned them into a reputable publication.

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By the way, while we're mentioning Dionne & Ivo... Dionne lives in Brazil too, right? :unsure:

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melody thomas scott recently said in a interview she did in australia that she is going to have her boobs reduced as she said that they are to big

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By the way, while we're mentioning Dionne & Ivo... Dionne lives in Brazil too, right? :unsure:

Is she still down there? I seem to remember she moved because she was sick of the earthquakes, but I think she's back in L.A. again.

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I just looked it up and it says that she divides her time between Brazil and the U.S.

Her family's in L.A. and Jersey so I figured she was never down there 365/year. Her sister Dee Dee who was also a singer died a couple of years ago and I know she'd been around during her illness.

I'm so nosy, I wanna know what her fan club president did to get fired (then rehired). :P

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melody thomas scott recently said in a interview she did in australia that she is going to have her boobs reduced as she said that they are to big

That's because they're having to compensate for her even bigger thighs and waistline.

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Ah, yes, I remember it well, lol. That was before their exclusive about John Edwards's affair with Rielle Hunter turned them into a reputable publication.

I think it was their OJ coverage which did that -- they kind of made fools of a lot of the press on that (doesn't take much work); my aunt bought Enquirer and Star and National Examiner every week, and Enquirer for a year or two was constantly bragging about their OJ scoops.

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I admit that I like to pick on Shirley--from her homophobic newspaper interviews after her "disgust" at having to see a gay kiss in Sunday Bloody Sunday in the 70s, on, but I actually think her live voice now is a *mess*. She can still his some of the notes, but her enunciation is deadly, and I have to disagree, I don't think her voice is a spot on what it was in the 70s.

I guess I'm the only one who saw Dionne Warwick on the Joy Behar show the other week? Joy asked if she still smoked, and Dionne proudly said "at least a pack a day, and that's never gonna change". She also said that the only reason she would have stopped is if it had affected her voice, but that it simply hadn't.

Now this made me kinda blink in disbelief. Many of my fave records are the 60s recordings Dionne did produced by Burt Bacharach--they just have flawless, gorgeous vocals (I had to work quite hard to find some of the records which haven't been reissued). Back then she could outsing any R&B singer with songs like Don't Make Me Over, and yet I think had the vocal control and skill of an Ella Fitzgerald on jazzier and more demanding Bacharach songs like the underated Checkout Time, Last One to Be Love, etc.

Of course her music got far more shmaltzier (as did Bacharach's) by the late 70s and 80s, but anyone listening to her vocals from the 80s on, and comparing them to the 60s, can OBVIOUSLY hear that her voice is NOTHING like the instrument it once was, and I have NO doubt it's largely due to smoking. It sounds hoarse, she has a very limited range (which isn't just due to her voice lowering with age), and has very little breath control. I almost wish Joy had called her out on it.

*EDIT* I should actually read the full thread before replying, I see people did comment on the Joy Behar segment. Still I can't believe she thinks her voice hasn't been affected. When I think of voices ruined by cigarettes, Dionne is who I first think of first.

One singer who I think sounds virtually as amazing as she did over 30 years ago is, yes, my beloved Donna Summer, who I saw live last year. Now people have picked on her weight gain (which has gone up and down since the 90s, though never to Aretha Franklin size). Part of this is due to the fact she admitted she used to be largely anorexic (and did a lot of cocaine in the 70s) and now is happy to largely stay out of the public spotlight and "enjoy her pasta with her children and grandchildren" (her daughter Brooklyn Sudano was just in the awful MTV modern disco movie Turn the Beat Around, and is *stunning*). Though Donna seems to have lost some weight over the past year, it honestly seems a moot point to me--she's in her mid 60s and if she wants to be a more typically sized Black/Italian grandmother, more power to her. But anyway, her vocals are still outstanding (she never smoked, and since the 80s has been pretty clean when it comes to partying I think, which I'm sure helped)

Here she is 5 years ago (and at her heaviest) still sounding nearly note perfect the same as she did on the 1977 recording. (I also don't think she's had any plastic surgery really--as she said on one recent talk show "black don't crack"--don't tell that to Whitney ;) --though some might think she should have some I suppose for her weight but I say leave it be.) She *does* have a slightly lower register (though when I saw her live she sang the falsetto I Feel Love flawlessly), but I think that's 100% natural--Donna Summer's singing is vastly underated I think, but maybe even more so is the fact of how similar she sounds at 63 to when she was 23.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6XIJRc9HV8

+5! Donna is the gold standard of a singer keeping her voice in pristine condition. she's always had an ass the size of Texas, so she just needs to wear things to hide it and keep that spread in check. I LOVE that dress she wears in that clip, it's very flattering to her, and looks like something *I* would design... I would have, however.... not done it in white... I'd have chosen midnight violet. Shiley Bassey made homophobic comments about "Sunday, Bloody Sunday"? I had no idea. Kind of makes me see her in a different light. I know Donna said some things and then she said she was definately misquoted... and I believe her. She cried when she talked about it... and that bitch ain't THAT good of an actress.

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Donna often sounds better live than in her recordings, it's a true testament to her that she's managed to keep that voice of her's after all these years.

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+5! Donna is the gold standard of a singer keeping her voice in pristine condition. she's always had an ass the size of Texas, so she just needs to wear things to hide it and keep that spread in check. I LOVE that dress she wears in that clip, it's very flattering to her, and looks like something *I* would design... I would have, however.... not done it in white... I'd have chosen midnight violet.

I'm sure Bruce don't mind that booty! :P

Yeah, white's always going to be a popular choice for black performers, the "power" color, it looks so good (dramatic even) against black skin as it makes the wearer pop on stage and screen. I think of Diahann Carroll on Dynasty, the Dreams in Dreamgirls, this:

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