OLTL: Discussion for the week September 28

[oltl1]

So did I but I'm remembering Pamela telling Clint and Bo that her sister was married to a real a**hole who used to beat on Jared and his little brother. Also, if I remember correctly, this guy was the reason Jimmy died. If that guy was involved with Mitch, it's not out of the realm of soapdom for that boy to have been stolen raised by Mitch. I just hope this return doesn't flop like Carlo Hesser's return last year.

[All My Shadows]

NEKKID JARED!!!!

*sigh*

They're screwing around with my favorite foursome on the show. Poo on you, OLTL!

[SFK]

From the very first time Dorian said it, I've always felt the whole "We're Cramer women" thing was just OLTL biting off of AMC's "I'm Erica Kane" bit. Then AMC went and stole it right back with their "Kane women" deal.

[oltl1]

Liked today's episode. The chemistry between Kyle and Fish is easy and and cute. I hope the show follows through with this storyline and that the press takes notice. Also, I'm ashamed to admit this, but I LOVE Kim. That girl is just to funny.

[DeeeDee]

Me too!

Her OMG when Gigi ran down Stacy's crimes was hilarious.

[rhinohide]

Don't the Cramer women precede the Kane women? I mean besides Mona and Erica, who were the "Kane Women" 10 - 15 years ago?

[SFK]

Precisely, I'm saying that the first time I heard Dorian's "We're Cramer women" line, it sounded like OLTL's answer to AMC's "I am Erica Kane", these recurring mottos of strength and self-assurance from the divas of the show. Then when Bianca and Kendall came back, Erica started with the "Kane women" thing, and that felt like someone was biting off of OLTL's Cramer women. I dunno, just my thought process/initial reactions as a viewer. But you know, when Erica married Dimitri, Mona had a line as they all looked at each other in the mirror about the "three generations of Kane women" so that seed had been planted pre-Cramers I guess.

[DRW50]

The Cramer women have been around for 35 years, but there have always been so many undercurrents of anger and tension and control in all the relationships, from Melinda/Dorian at the beginning.

[Cheap21]

In the 70s, the only Cramer women you had were Dorian and Melinda and Cassie joined in the 80s. Then somehow in the 90s Blair, Addie and Kelly litterally came from nowhere and the whole Cramer Women motif was created

[Vee]

The whole "Cramer Women" thing can get very tired when the characters are badly written, but when they're done well, there's nothing like it. These days Blair and Dorian are the only ones who really embody it with any kind of authenticity. Kelly's been running from the Cramers her whole life, and Adriana seems to be next in line; they both treat the other women with faint contempt.

[Cheap21]

Blair is a pathetic excuse of a woman at the moment. She is everything the "Cramer Women" motif is NOT. Pathetic, desperate, shrewish. She isnt the strong, independent, intelligent woman that Dorian always speaks of when she goes on about the family

[Ann_SS]

I continue to like Rachel and Greg. Kim rules.

[EricMontreal22]

I think OLTL handles their writing a bit differently? at least isn't it often the same two names last in the daily writing credits? *not sure*

[MichaelGL]

Count me in as a fan of Kim's. She's such a breath of fresh air compared to the whole Rex/Gigi/Stacy mess.

[All My Shadows]

Yeah, if the way Blair is currently written is what being a Cramer woman is all about, then I have to admire Cassie and Adriana for getting the hell out of Dodge.