4 hours ago, SoapDope said:

Greg Beecroft (Tony) I take it was not pleasant to work with for some. I remember Melanie Smith mentioning that he was one of the few actors she worked with that she did not get along with. He has that cocky persona that bleeds over into his work. He knows that most people find him attractive and he has an ego about it. 

I agree that Jarod Ross should have been brought back to wrap things up. It was already a let down that Cindy Pickett vacated the role of Jackie before Elizabeth finds out about Phillip. With the re-cast it fell flat for me. It seems that within a few years all of the players in the late 70's drama surrounding Phillip would be gone (Jackie, Justin, Elizabeth, Mike, and eventually Alan till his return in 1986. 

 

Heard too. But at last it caught up with him coz on the other soaps he was afterwards he got axed lmao

10 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

The recastasting of Ed and dropping Barbara,Steve and Adam were not his decisions.

Recasting Ed was definitely a Marland decision,...excuse me for this but he was acting like a pissy queen calling the previous actor "fat" because supposedly he dissed Marland's writing. 

11 minutes ago, Mitch64 said:

Recasting Ed was definitely a Marland decision,...excuse me for this but he was acting like a pissy queen calling the previous actor "fat" because supposedly he dissed Marland's writing. 

Marland also somewhat gleefully announced in the press how Lenore Kasdorf supposedly loathed Hulswit. The writer referred to MH as a "dodo" and applauded the new, "younger, sexier Ed."

It's the only time I ever saw DM be a bitch.

6 minutes ago, vetsoapfan said:

"younger, sexier Ed."

Was anyone checking for Peter Simon BITD?

I always thought of the P&G shows as placing talent above looks but then again it was the early 1980s when ABC youth movement was killing it in daytime.

Edited August 16, 20241 yr by kalbir

44 minutes ago, vetsoapfan said:

Marland also somewhat gleefully announced in the press how Lenore Kasdorf supposedly loathed Hulswit. The writer referred to MH as a "dodo" and applauded the new, "younger, sexier Ed."

It's the only time I ever saw DM be a bitch.

I remember after he passed away there were some indications of that (I think there was a story claiming at his home he put a photo of someone he disliked in the toilet so that's what you saw when you opened it up...), but he was generally more discreet in the press. I'm shocked he was so crass about Hulswit, especially given his popularity with fans. 

The show also did not try very hard to make Ed some sort of sex god (Marland immediately put him in a long term relationship). It was actually Hulswit who had more love with the ladies (at one point Rita, Holly, and Lainie Marler all had some type of feelings for him).

Anyway...this is only a partial episode.

 

Edited August 16, 20241 yr by DRW50

1 minute ago, DRW50 said:

(I think there was a story claiming at his home he put a photo of someone he disliked in the toilet so that's what you saw when you opened it up...)

Thom Racina told that story once on some podcast.  The photo was of Gloria Monty.

1 minute ago, Khan said:

Thom Racina told that story once on some podcast.  The photo was of Gloria Monty.

Thanks. I couldn't remember if it was her or Potter.

17 hours ago, DRW50 said:

 

@P.J. I can't remember if you were asking about the date for the Quola wedding but it was 6/24/83.

 

I guess this could have been on the Philip DVD. I'm not sure. 

 

 

I did ask, but later found confirmation that it was 6/24. I'm not sure why there seems to be a discrepancy with the German episode dates. At some point, I'll try to dig into it a bit more. 

Yikes...I know Vanessa's a manipulative bitch at this point, but I'd never seen Maeve have anti-chemistry with anyone before. 

 

Man, I love me some early Ross/Vanessa! With apologies to Jane Elliot, I think Jerry and Maeve have more chem.

Edited August 16, 20241 yr by P.J.

Jane Elliott was/is a good actress... but sometimes a good performer just doesn't fit in on a show.  She just didn't fit in with the vibe/atmosphere on GL.   

Someone in a previous message described her acting as intense and I think that could be why she just didn't fit into GL.  

I still am amazed that not only did Mart H get fired as Ed, but that Peter Simon was hired without him even knowing he was going to be replacing Mart as Ed.  He didn't even know who he would be playing until right before he started on the show.

I still cannot guess what Marland's plans for Carrie were. 

Was she supposed to stay around? Was her son supposed to play a part in the story? Was she supposed to go after one or two years? 

I also wonder about Kelly and Morgan, as well as Jennifer. I doubt that they would be written out so quickly. 

8 minutes ago, Soaplovers said:

Jane Elliott was/is a good actress... but sometimes a good performer just doesn't fit in on a show.  She just didn't fit in with the vibe/atmosphere on GL.   

Someone in a previous message described her acting as intense and I think that could be why she just didn't fit into GL.  

I still am amazed that not only did Mart H get fired as Ed, but that Peter Simon was hired without him even knowing he was going to be replacing Mart as Ed.  He didn't even know who he would be playing until right before he started on the show.

I didn't know that about Simon. What an awkward situation. You so often hear of soaps doing this, especially back then. 

I think Jane might have been a good fit if they had brought her in a different way, but having Carrie initially be sweet as pie then she ends up being a murderer and having split personalities - it's a lot for people to deal with as at that time Springfield still seemed like a relatively normal place. 

She would have been a smart pick for a Spaulding relative, although Jane may not have wanted to play that as she already had on GH.

1 minute ago, Sapounopera said:

I still cannot guess what Marland's plans for Carrie were. 

Was she supposed to stay around? Was her son supposed to play a part in the story? Was she supposed to go after one or two years? 

I also wonder about Kelly and Morgan, as well as Jennifer. I doubt that they would be written out so quickly. 

I imagine Kelly/Morgan/Josh would have lasted longer. 

I do wonder what he would have done with Jennifer. Maybe instead of being written out once Mark and Amanda got together, she would have ended up with Justin or Ross or Mike. She and Mike were a bit of a thing.

On 8/15/2024 at 9:32 AM, SoapDope said:

I don't know what it is, but I always found Jane Elliott to be a bit intense in everything I have seen her in. Like and underlying rage beneath the surface.  What I have read she is pretty much that way in real life.

I remember reading a hilarious article with Leigh Taylor Young where she said back in the 60's she was encouraged by a friend to get an agent to start working in TV. She said the friend asked Jane Elliott to come over to help put her in touch with one. Jane came in and she and the friend discussed Leigh and Jane never once spoke to her. She just looked her up and down and said " She won't be any competition, sure I'll give you my agents number and walked out. Leigh said she just sat there in a daze kind of laughing to herself at what happened. A few weeks later she was screen tested for Peyton Place. 

Jerry ver Dorn said it best. You never knew which Jane you would get. She is moody. I personally witnessed Jane being a bitch on the GL set. And I personally witnessed the fallout. 

More 1981 *squeeeee*  

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I read the plan was for Carrie to have therapy and integrate her personalities, with the end result being she couldn't stay with Ross because too much had happened and she wasn't the woman he fell for.

That might have resulted in some great scenes for Jane but perhaps Potter felt it might have not resonated with viewers as the ratings hadn't provided much evidence of interest in the Carrie story.

Re Marland/Ed- was there anything in the writing for Hulswit towards  the end of his run that showed that Marland didn't like the actor?

Allen Potter was against replacing Ed so was it P&G /Marland that ganged up?