On 4/8/2026 at 10:53 PM, DRW50 said:

I got a laugh out of this.

Now that you mention it, Claire was one of the women I thought Ron had a little more pep with, although I don't know if I believe Alan would have been interested in her. Maybe if Ed had been around and Alan had wanted to needle him.

Claire was around right before PS came back. Its really odd, they had the Meta/Claire lighthouse storyline (loved the Meta/Claire dynamic...Meta giving her a kick in the ass and Claire the only person in town who doesnt treat Meta like a beloved aunt..more like an annoying aunt you cant get rid of.) MS got sick so I understand they had to dump the planned storyline of the grand reopening of the lighthouse for (and substitute Jeva's sixth millionth wedding? Someone really thought they were quite the ratings draw) but PS came back and Claire just..disappeared. Another missed opp. Claire with Ed's old enemy, and also with Rick and his heart issue, having Claire involved...(and Pratt made such a great pain in the ass.) I also liked that Alan and Claire were just screwing and not making anything more of it.

I too liked PS much better on his return then during his post Mo death period. Simon played a great, wounded troubled guy trying to do right. Taggert used him really well, as kind of a Judge Lowell character that people bounded issues off of and he came off so much stronger...and really showed that GL needed quiet characters like Ed and quiet actors like PS to ground the show. It was never shown better then Ed's scene with Reva with KZ trying her tricks on upstaging and PS having none of it and it was a really good scene, KZ had to take it down to meet Simon as Reva would have to with Ed and it also showed that KZ was great with relationship scenes of family and friends instead of the OTT things Rauch contantly put her in.

10 hours ago, Mitch64 said:

They had a good scene on a Christmas Eve episode, Alex has a glam party and everyone is there dressed to the nines...(and its MKA's last episode during her short stint, who oddly says she is just taking a trip and will be back) and then another scnene and its Alex by herself kind of picking up after the party (I can see a control freak like her not waiting for the help) and Roger, knowing full well that she is alone comes in and asks where everyone is and she tells them they all left to got the the Bauers, and he makes his move. Simple fast scene showing that Alex is lonely and in her own Spaulding screwed up way, wants to make a home like the Bauers were people come to hang out.

Roger always had a talent for manipulating women. And finding ones with daddy issues. That Christmas Eve is when they found out Beth was alive, so you can imagine she was also feeling Lujack's absence a little more keenly than usual.

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That is one sinister interpretation of Jerry ver Dorn. LOL...just read the bottom, seeing it was in the June 28th 1980 issue. Odd that they'd have Hilary in the add and not Hope.

6 minutes ago, P.J. said:

That is one sinister interpretation of Jerry ver Dorn. LOL...just read the bottom, seeing it was in the June 28th 1980 issue. Odd that they'd have Hilary in the add and not Hope.

I was wondering the same thing! I wonder if the artist was given any instructions on who to include and who gets featured or if it was all at his or her discretion.

Lenore on the top-that makes sense, she was one of the big stars of the show at this point. They mention the Emmy win and she was heavily featured in that episode. But Maureen was literally on the way out the door, she left a few months later. It's not Marsha Clark's inclusion that I'm puzzled about (I mean, Hillary's a Bauer), it's Lezlie Dalton's, who Marland was already in the process of writing out of the show. Why are she and Janet (Evie) there and not Elvera? (And why isn't her name on the list?) There's even an empty space between Jerry and Stephen Yates where they could have put her drawing. It looks a little off.

Now I'm wondering if they were considering getting rid of her at this point. She and Chris were their major couple at the time (with JWS and Kristen as the young love couple) it just seems bizarre she's not there. Which reminds me--why is Lisa Brown not there? Maybe she was still considered relatively minor and hadn't broken out yet.

Also weird is that they list Charita's name but don't include her in the drawing. Ageism, maybe? Don and Mart are small and off to the side (I bet Don hated this ad, LOL).

And, yeah, why did they make Jerry look like a serial killer? 😂

Edited 6 hours ago6 hr by DeeVee

18 minutes ago, DeeVee said:

I was wondering the same thing! I wonder if the artist was given any instructions on who to include and who gets featured or if it was all at his or her discretion.

Lenore on the top-that makes sense, she was one of the big stars of the show at this point. They mention the Emmy win and she was heavily featured in that episode. But Maureen was literally on the way out the door, she left a few months later. It's not Marsha Clark's inclusion that I'm puzzled about (I mean, Hillary's a Bauer), it's Lezlie Dalton's, who Marland was already in the process of writing out of the show. Why are she and Janet (Evie) there and not Elvera?

Also weird is that they list Charita's name but don't include her in the drawing. Ageism, maybe? Don and Mart are small and off to the side (I bet Don hated this ad, LOL).

And, yeah, why did the make Jerry look like a serial killer? 😂

I get Lezlie, who always has story. (She's cheating on Justin with Mike, or something around this time.) Hillary's stories never seemed to go anywhere.

I was trying to figure out why Nola or Vanessa weren't included. While Lisa had been airing for a few months (but oddly, both Kelly and Morgan are, and they must've started around the same time), Maeve probably hadn't even started airing when this was at the printers.

Poor Janet Grey---that is one lousy drawing of her. Sure, Jerry looks sinister, and Stephen looks a little odd...but if they didn't list Janet's name, I don't think I could've guessed that was supposed to be her. Unless someone can think of someone else that might be.

Edited 5 hours ago5 hr by P.J.

24 minutes ago, P.J. said:

I was trying to figure out why Nola or Vanessa weren't included. While Lisa had been airing for a few months (but oddly, both Kelly and Morgan are, and they must've started around the same time), Maeve probably hadn't even started airing when this was at the printers.

I'm pretty sure she started around March 1980? I would guess she wasn't included but JWS and Kristen were because Kelly and Morgan were Marland's plan to be GL's answer to Scottie/Laura from GH. They were major with a major planned storyline. He didn't seem to have a major storyline in mind for Maeve--besides tormenting Ross and vamping most of the men in town.

For a sort-off villainous character, Vanessa was very reactive when Marland wrote her. She went after Ross because she couldn't imagine him really being interested in Evie. She became enemies with Quint and Nola because she couldn't stand the idea of not being Daddy's only child.

I've never understood why, when he had this FABULOUS actress, playing someone who had all the makings of a FABULOUS character, he never gave her a strong storyline with a strong throughline.

Edited 5 hours ago5 hr by DeeVee

If that ad was done in June 1980, Vanessa had just started on the show a mere few weeks before so I could understand her not being in the ad. Kelly/Morgan because they were the new young love story while Holly had just come off an intense year dealing with the rape, being in prison for 'killing' Roger, and the Santa Domingo story so her name carried weight even though it was close to her leaving. I do agree that Hope should have been included in the ad.

Edited 5 hours ago5 hr by Soaplovers

2 hours ago, DeeVee said:

I'm pretty sure she started around March 1980? I would guess she wasn't included but JWS and Kristen were because Kelly and Morgan were Marland's plan to be GL's answer to Scottie/Laura from GH. They were major with a major planned storyline. He didn't seem to have a major storyline in mind for Maeve--besides tormenting Ross and vamping most of the men in town.

For a sort-off villainous character, Vanessa was very reactive when Marland wrote her. She went after Ross because she couldn't imagine him really being interested in Evie. She became enemies with Quint and Nola because she couldn't stand the idea of not being Daddy's only child.

I've never understood why, when he had this FABULOUS actress, playing someone who had all the makings of a FABULOUS character, he never gave her a strong storyline with a strong throughline.

I could see that reasoning re: Kelly/Morgan vs Nola. Especially knowing Nola was created somewhat on the fly.

It is surprising Marland didn't give Vanessa stronger schemes and goals. Maybe he thought two (or three, I guess, with Diane) cold-hearted schemers was overkill, and Vanessa kind of jelled into the jealous adult woman/child. Maybe she would've headed back to Ross, as Ross and Carrie sorted out who and what they were after discovering her split personalities.

I never blamed Vanessa for resenting Quint--he was such an obnoxious do-gooder, anyone would've hated him. LOL.