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Were the Cooper family originally created to be of Greek heritage or was that done because of Frank Dicopolous casting? I think the back story used was that Pops came to the United States as a young man and Americanized the family name from Kouperakis to Cooper.

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3 minutes ago, kalbir said:

Were the Cooper family originally created to be of Greek heritage or was that done because of Frank Dicopolous casting? I think the back story used was that Pops came to the United States as a young man and Americanized the family name from Kouperakis to Cooper.

I’ve heard that story about Frank D-it’s funny to me how no other Cooper looks particularly Greek besides Eleni so not sure the point of the whole backstory around Frank.

I know Frank D actually is Greek but it’s funny how AM/Rick looks like he’s the one who could slide into Eleni’s family and not Frank. (RH is half-Italian.)

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1 minute ago, GL95 said:

I’ve heard that story about Frank D-it’s funny to me how no other Cooper looks particularly Greek besides Eleni so not sure the point of the whole backstory around Frank.

It's like a reverse Full House. John Stamos had Uncle Jesse last name changed from Cochran to Katsopolis to reflect his Greek heritage but I wasn't convinced that the three blonde-haired blue-eyed Tanner daughters had a Greek-American mother.

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Well, that's always been Frank's story. Being Greek is not really integral to the introduction of the Coopers, that I recall. I guess GL had already done Irish roots with the Reardons.

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FWIW, I went to high school with someone who had a very Greek name (first and last) and whose family ran a Greek-style pizzeria but was not only blonde and blue-eyed but bore a slight resemblance to a young Meryl Streep.

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I hit May 1993 and you can definitely tell it was sweeps. Everything came together.

Buzz gets caught by Mallet at the airport as he tries to disguise himself as a woman and gets interrogated in a hotel room while still in the dress. (Marion foreshadowing lol?) Frank/Eleni get married and she immediately goes into labor afterwards, and while Eleni is giving birth Harley learns Buzz is her father. AM watches the wedding sadly from the Journal terrace-Blake drops by sad Ross won't propose with some wine. AM briefly commiserates and sends her back to Ross saying he won't be the guy she goes to for revenge. (In my binge AM had a similar scene with Harley where she kisses him when she's still crushed about Josh and he says he won't be used to get over someone else.)

Nadine's web of lies all come crashing down at once-Baby Peter is revealed to be Bridget's kid and that she knew who Buzz was all along. While everything is hitting the fan with the lies but before Bridget is fully revealed as Peter's mom, she takes off with Peter and has David watch him as she tries to explore her options. It quickly gets reported as a kidnapping and Billy makes a plea on TV with Roger giving him airtime while Hart watches while neither know Peter is Hart's. Bridget eventually returns with Peter and Vanessa susses out that Bridget is Peter's mom and Van bonds with Bridget as she shares about her past with Dinah. Bridget clearly wants to keep Peter and move in with Ed, but Ed is in a bad place and inadvertently dissuades Bridget without knowing about Peter.

Eve has her full freakout. First she drugged Mindy at the fashion show and Mindy gets in a serious accident with Little Bill in the car. Then as Mindy recovers, Eve comes and knocks her out. Nick arrives and she drugs him too. Nick manages to call Ed who arrives as Eve flees as it all sinks in what she's done, and she plans to jump off the lighthouse. Ed eventually talks her down and takes her to a mental hospital after we learn just how bad things got in Cambre. Nick sympathizes with Eve but Mindy is not quite there yet haha. Somehow Nick/Mindy look to be on the verge of reconciling and it's really pretty amazing that Mindy would forgive Nick for all the terrible things he believed about her that Eve told him. Crazy Eve was kind of fun so it's a bit of a bummer how deep her trauma is to bring it on-I admittedly would not have minded a little longer psychological torture of the various Mindy recasts (both Ann Hamilton and Barbara Crampton play Mindy as this is happening).

Finally there is a whole lot of Hart/Julie/Dylan with Bridget getting her heart broken by Hart again who is fixated on Julie. It is remarkable how everyone is in love with someone bland in this story and Bridget is on the outside. (Bridget has a really great scene with Kat where she breaks down about hiding the pregnancy because she was ashamed when Kat is mad she didn't trust her and they make up. I want David/Bridget/Kat on my screen any day over Hart/Julie/Dylan.)

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I know people think '93 starts to slide, (and full disclosure, I'm too heartbroken to watch after Jordan Clarke's exit) but I think the first half is classic soap. I'd put those scenes with Ehlers/Deas/Carol in my top ten. BE is fantastic confronting her parents.

And Maeve gets some great lines---"what are you going to do, Nadine? Put it in the oven and broil it?" and (when asked where she came from) "my mother's womb--I think. Where did your baby come from?"

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29 minutes ago, GL95 said:

I hit May 1993 and you can definitely tell it was sweeps. Everything came together.

Buzz gets caught by Mallet at the airport as he tries to disguise himself as a woman and gets interrogated in a hotel room while still in the dress. (Marion foreshadowing lol?) Frank/Eleni get married and she immediately goes into labor afterwards, and while Eleni is giving birth Harley learns Buzz is her father. AM watches the wedding sadly from the Journal terrace-Blake drops by sad Ross won't propose with some wine. AM briefly commiserates and sends her back to Ross saying he won't be the guy she goes to for revenge. (In my binge AM had a similar scene with Harley where she kisses him when she's still crushed about Josh and he says he won't be used to get over someone else.)

Nadine's web of lies all come crashing down at once-Baby Peter is revealed to be Bridget's kid and that she knew who Buzz was all along. While everything is hitting the fan with the lies but before Bridget is fully revealed as Peter's mom, she takes off with Peter and has David watch him as she tries to explore her options. It quickly gets reported as a kidnapping and Billy makes a plea on TV with Roger giving him airtime while Hart watches while neither know Peter is Hart's. Bridget eventually returns with Peter and Vanessa susses out that Bridget is Peter's mom and Van bonds with Bridget as she shares about her past with Dinah. Bridget clearly wants to keep Peter and move in with Ed, but Ed is in a bad place and inadvertently dissuades Bridget without knowing about Peter.

Eve has her full freakout. First she drugged Mindy at the fashion show and Mindy gets in a serious accident with Little Bill in the car. Then as Mindy recovers, Eve comes and knocks her out. Nick arrives and she drugs him too. Nick manages to call Ed who arrives as Eve flees as it all sinks in what she's done, and she plans to jump off the lighthouse. Ed eventually talks her down and takes her to a mental hospital after we learn just how bad things got in Cambre. Nick sympathizes with Eve but Mindy is not quite there yet haha. Somehow Nick/Mindy look to be on the verge of reconciling and it's really pretty amazing that Mindy would forgive Nick for all the terrible things he believed about her that Eve told him. Crazy Eve was kind of fun so it's a bit of a bummer how deep her trauma is to bring it on-I admittedly would not have minded a little longer psychological torture of the various Mindy recasts (both Ann Hamilton and Barbara Crampton play Mindy as this is happening).

Finally there is a whole lot of Hart/Julie/Dylan with Bridget getting her heart broken by Hart again who is fixated on Julie. It is remarkable how everyone is in love with someone bland in this story and Bridget is on the outside. (Bridget has a really great scene with Kat where she breaks down about hiding the pregnancy because she was ashamed when Kat is mad she didn't trust her and they make up. I want David/Bridget/Kat on my screen any day over Hart/Julie/Dylan.)

LOL at Buzz in a dress - that shocks me. Was it actually good or too obvious it's Buzz?

This all sounds fun, thanks for the details!! The Peter/Bridget story is one I can't wait to see. I'm also intrigued to see crazy Eve, considering when I saw her in 1995, she was pretty bland and normal before she died (but I remember the guys here telling me last year her wild backstory).

I'm not familiar with Julie. Sounds like I'm not missing much though.

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14 minutes ago, P.J. said:

I know people think '93 starts to slide, (and full disclosure, I'm too heartbroken to watch after Jordan Clarke's exit) but I think the first half is classic soap. I'd put those scenes with Ehlers/Deas/Carol in my top ten. BE is fantastic confronting her parents.

And Maeve gets some great lines---"what are you going to do, Nadine? Put it in the oven and broil it?" and (when asked where she came from) "my mother's womb--I think. Where did your baby come from?"

Love to hear this about early 1993. And of course LOL at Van's zingers.

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