3 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

And your recaps are a big reason the thread is entertaining (and covers so many eras).

Aww, I love watching the show and doing them ❤️

I’m up to October 26, 1998.

Michelle and Bill meet on the beach and he tells her about Dinah taking the blood pressure pills and how worried he is about her. They get a little sentimental and Bill surprises her with a kiss. She’s taken aback and gets a little angry, but Bill said he looks and feels different and he’s no longer a kid. He then tells her he’s going to Millennium’s opening night and will pick her up, leaving her a bit stunned. She goes to Dahlia and begs her to go with her so it doesn’t seem like it’s a date with Bill. Meanwhile, Drew/Jesse/Mick are getting ready for the Millennium opening when Selena shows up and Drew is nice to her. Privately Mick tells Selena that he told Drew about Selena needing money to find her kid. The party starts and LOL - it’s full of extras swing dancing to big brass band music, which is not the vibe I was expecting from this new, hip nightclub. Harley and Phillip show up and laugh about how they’re too old to be there. The new actress playing Vicky debuts by showing up to the opening (10/15), telling David she just got back to town after touring the world for Spaulding. Not sure why we needed a recast, but we’ll see how she does. Later, Bill asks Michelle to dance and she finally tells him she’s in love with Jesse and they’re moving in together, which upsets him, but he continues to tell her he only wants the best for her. Drew keeps pulling Jesse into pictures and interviews with the press, which makes Michelle sad seeing the two of them so happy and close. Marcus arrives at the party (wow!) and Dahlia sees him from a distance and immediately grabs David to dance with her, which Marcus sees. He interrupts them and Dahlia tells him she knows about his other woman. He said he came to apologize and it was just a one time thing. He convinces her to leave the party so they can talk and she agrees. Later at the diner, he says he’s taking breaks from touring around Christmas so they can spend more time together. He leaves to take a call and a woman comes into the diner and says she’s looking for her boyfriend named Marcus Williams, pissing off Dahlia once again. Marcus comes back and sees them together and comes clean (what a dog!). He breaks up with the girl and tells Dahlia he’s never stopped loving her and wants to make it work out. The girl leaves and Dahlia slaps Marcus. He said he doesn’t want to lose her, but Dahlia says he already has. These scenes were well-acted but felt empty to me since we didn’t see the build-up to this point (just told), and it’s been a year since the writers even focused on them. This was Marcus’s last episode (10/22), a shame that we didn’t even see Marcus/Griffin have a final scene or closure as son/father. Typical of GL though with their B-character departures that I’ve seen.

Selena catches Mick selling drugs to a customer and she lays into him. Buzz then shows up and again comments how old he is for the party (even though the music is for his generation haha), and he and Selena start dancing. A man comes up to Selena and assumes she’s a prostitute, which makes Selena cry and Buzz consoles her. After the party is over, Drew makes Jesse stay to count the money with her which annoys Michelle. Bill tells her to dance with him so they can make Jesse jealous, so they do in front of Drew/Jesse. Jesse doesn’t seem to be fazed by it and eventually takes Michelle home.

Frank puts Ken on suicide watch at the police station. Harley starts to suspect Frank is more interested in Teri and she gets him to admit they kissed. He promises her that it’ll never happen again and Harley tries to convince him to get a new partner because one thing will lead to another. He gets her to promise that she won’t call Eleni in Greece about it. However, Harley does makes calls to get more information on Teri’s past.

Teri goes to Reva’s house and tells her about the call she got from Annie. Shane then runs in and said some strange lady gave him a note, which based on his description of her, it matches the sketching of Annie from the dollmaker. The note wants Reva to meet her and refers to the carousel house that Josh bought Annie before. Reva, like an idiot, goes to the carousel house to find Annie. Why she isn’t taking police with her is beyond me, considering this lady left her on a plane to die. Teri tells Josh about the note and the two show up just as Reva finds a note. Teri realizes it’s a trap and just as Reva takes the note, Teri pushes her out of the way as wood falls from the ceiling. Frank and the cops show up and find a bodybag, shovel and duct tape outside the property. They read the note which says her wish is to have Reva dead. At the police station, they bring Alan in because they found his cufflinks in her stolen car. He denies seeing Annie and continues to say Annie is the victim in all of this. They get a lead on where Annie is staying so they all go to the apartment and bust down the door and find a creepy shrine to Josh. They also find love letters to Josh hidden in her desk. Meanwhile, Alan gets more emails from Annie saying she’s running out of time and money and needs his help. She wants him to meet her at the docks, so he goes down there looking for her and yells out how much he loves her. All of a sudden, a little boat explodes and Alan screams out to her and cries. Lizzie tells Phillip and Harley about the emails, so Phillip goes to the docks and Harley calls Frank and everyone heads to the docks. They all search the water for a body because Alan thinks he saw someone on the boat and they all assume Annie died. The divers find a body which is burned beyond recognition, but Reva still doesn’t think Annie is dead. They bring out the items from the body and Josh identifies the wedding band he gave Annie. Later, the dental records come back as a match between the body and Annie, but Reva still doesn’t believe it. As they wait for more DNA test results, they bring out Ken and use a specialized doctor to administer a new truth drug. Holly is against it, but Ken wants to proceed. Teri offers to take the drug first to prove it’s safe, but Frank says no and he will do it instead. On the side, Harley warns Teri to stop flirting with Frank. On the drug, the doctor starts asking Frank questions and it works. Harley tells him to call Eleni afterwards, while he’s on the drug, and he does, meaning the drug has a certain level of persuasion associated to it. As they start to drug Ken, Teri allows Ross and Holly to observe but kicks Harley out of the station, which pisses her off. On the drug, Ken says he has spaces in memory and isn’t sure if he could have done the stalking then, but he never wants to hurt people and is sad about how families are broken up. So he doesn’t help or hurt his case unfortunately.

The DNA results come back and Teri/Frank deliver the results to everyone at the Spaulding Mansion. Teri/Frank were with the evidence the entire time, so there could have been no tampering with or switching of the DNA. The conclusive results say the dead body is Annie’s! Alan doesn’t believe it though, as he heard her whisper to him and he’s sure she’s still alive. Ben then walks in with Annie’s will that she left him, as her former prosecutor. He reads the will, giving Alan her written wedding vows, Beth her wedding dress in hopes she can wear it when marrying Phillip (and not that ‘deceitful piece of trash Harley Cooper’ LOL), and for Reva/Josh, a coin with a Latin phrase. Vicky immediately panics and tells them not to touch the coin because she has experience with ancient coins like that, which has a powerful curse connected to it. They mostly call it a joke and Reva throws the coin in the trash and leaves. Later, Vicky and Beth realize the coin is gone and no longer in the trash!

Harley tells Lizzie that she’s marrying Phillip and asks her to be the flower girl, which makes Lizzie so excited. Beth walks in and Lizzie tells her all about it, but Beth doesn’t let it get to her. She later has flashbacks to her engagement and wedding to Phillip (which was nice for me to see).

Cassie goes to the hospital and tells Dinah that she broke up with Hart and she can have him. She tells Dinah she better take good care of him or else. Dinah is happy, but a nurse comes in and needs Dinah to sign her baby’s death certificate, which makes Dinah break down in front of Cassie. Cassie ends up hugging her before leaving. Later, Hart finally takes Dinah home and they enjoy each other’s company. As they’re laughing, Cassie calls but doesn’t say anything once she hears the laughter. Later, Hart runs into her at the Towers and they have a nice talk outside, he gives her his jacket and he feels the baby kick. Meanwhile, Dinah is telling Vanessa Hart wants nothing to do with Cassie and she’ll never have to tell him the truth about her own baby not being his.

Ross goes to the house to see the kids and realizes as he tucks them into bed that he can’t break his family up. He tells Blake and Ben that he no longer wants to sue for custody, instead he wants to bring his family back together for the kids. Ben doesn’t buy it and tries to talk sense into Blake, but she asks Ben to leave because she wants her family back together too. Ben pouts about it and walks out. Ross then tells Blake he was cheated before from being a father because he couldn’t raise Dinah, so he doesn’t want to lose the chance again with the boys. They hug each other, and outside, Ben throws away his picture of Blake and the boys. The next morning, Ross/Blake and the boys wake up together in bed and everything seems to be happy (which seemed like a fast resolution, but I’m happy this story is finally moving forward and hopefully to something new). Well nevermind, Ben goes to Frank and says he’s reopening the case against Ross given that he tried to kill him. Also, Ross can’t go through with having sex because he keeps thinking about Blake/Ben together, so they fight about it all over again. Ross eventually says he can stay in the house and be there for the boys, but anything more is impossible at the moment, but Blake doesn’t want to play fake house like that.

Vicky and Vanessa continue to butt heads at Spaulding, and Vicky starts to catch on that there is tension between Vanessa and Beth because of Matt. She goes to Beth and suggests they play into the jealousy to drive Vanessa out of Spaulding so Vicky can take over. Beth says don’t count on her since it’s backhanded, but she’ll think about it.

Wait---Griffin was Marcus' father? So Gilly had a brother she never met?

This was when I actively started disliking Beth. Chamberlain's second run is pretty much a string of patheticness.

And I'm sure those two business wannabes thinking they could drive Vanessa out of Spaulding made sense to them---but child, please.

Edited 7 hours ago7 hr by P.J.

7 minutes ago, P.J. said:

Wait---Griffin was Marcus' father? So Gilly had a brother she never met?

This was when I actively started disliking Beth. Chamberlain's second run is pretty much a string of patheticness.

And I'm sure those two business wannabes thinking they could drive Vanessa out of Spaulding made sense to them---but child, please.

LOL at the bolded part :)

Yes! So Griffin came on the show in late 1995 to help Marcus get out of jail for Cutter's murder (Marian did it). It was after that storyline, later in 1996, when Griffin was revealed to be Gilly's real father. To your point, I don't remember Marcus or Gilly having any scenes at that time and Gilly then left soon after, so they really didn't get that brother/sister moment, sadly. And of course now that David Grant is back, there was no mention of Gilly to Marcus before he left. I just find it so odd they didn't give Marcus/Griffin a goodbye scene considering Marcus was the reason Griffin joined the show and they weren't really on the best of terms after Griffin's dumb assassination attempt. They needed closure IMO.

That's how I feel about Beth, she's definitely a weak person who seems to barely be hanging on.

I guess I just blanked on them being father/son, and I probably skipped all the Marcus related parts in your summaries.

Beth ever being involved at Spaulding just proved whoever was writing at the time never had a clue about who she was. At the end in '09, she's gearing up to be a corporate lawyer (or something) and it's just borderline ridiculous.

@alwaysAMC You're brave continuing 1998 past Annie parachuting off the plane.

I just realized yesterday (December 6) marked 27 years since we lost Michael Zaslow. I don't think GL mentioned his death until the rebroadcast of MZ Emmy winning episode.

I remember watching the last few months of Budig's Michelle and the change-over between her and Joie Lenz as Michelle. Budig's last day is her really nailing Mick in the head with the rock and Joie's first day was recreating that scene before sulking as Jesse/Bill/Drew try to plot how to avoid being implicated in what happened to Mick. It was an odd attempt at doing 'I know what you did last summer' that didn't seem to work.

Joie had a softer/fragile take on Michelle which contrasted quite a bit with Budig's more harsh take on the character. I often wonder how this story would have faired had Budig stayed on in the role because I doubt her Michelle would have ended up with Danny.

I've only seen her on GL and GH...but I never found Budig very likeable in those roles. I can't imagine her having chemistry with PAS either. I didn't think PAS was exciting in the role, but lord knows plenty of Mannys must have.

1 hour ago, P.J. said:

I've only seen her on GL and GH...but I never found Budig very likeable in those roles. I can't imagine her having chemistry with PAS either. I didn't think PAS was exciting in the role, but lord knows plenty of Mannys must have.

I thought PAS had a very thoughtful charisma. I thought he was a good-looking guy but not in the type of soap way that often leaves me cold (overdeveloped body, generic shirtless scenes, or a Ken doll look like the flop Bill recast at this time). I never really would have been going wild over him, but I did think he generated chemistry with Joie Lenz (and Laura Wright). I agree this would not have been likely with Budig. In all the soap work I've seen her in, I saw her have chemistry with one - count 'em, one - man (J Eddie Peck).

Obviously, this is just my opinion, and I know many loved her with any number of partners...but that was not on GL either.

3 hours ago, kalbir said:

@alwaysAMC You're brave continuing 1998 past Annie parachuting off the plane.

I just realized yesterday (December 6) marked 27 years since we lost Michael Zaslow. I don't think GL mentioned his death until the rebroadcast of MZ Emmy winning episode.

Haha I've actually really enjoyed most of the post-clone storylines, especially the Nursery Rhyme Stalker and the Annie/Teri thing (so far anyway). We'll see how long it lasts. 😄

RIP Zaslow! Such an amazing talent and good guy.

3 hours ago, Soaplovers said:

I remember watching the last few months of Budig's Michelle and the change-over between her and Joie Lenz as Michelle. Budig's last day is her really nailing Mick in the head with the rock and Joie's first day was recreating that scene before sulking as Jesse/Bill/Drew try to plot how to avoid being implicated in what happened to Mick. It was an odd attempt at doing 'I know what you did last summer' that didn't seem to work.

Joie had a softer/fragile take on Michelle which contrasted quite a bit with Budig's more harsh take on the character. I often wonder how this story would have faired had Budig stayed on in the role because I doubt her Michelle would have ended up with Danny.

2 hours ago, P.J. said:

I've only seen her on GL and GH...but I never found Budig very likeable in those roles. I can't imagine her having chemistry with PAS either. I didn't think PAS was exciting in the role, but lord knows plenty of Mannys must have.

17 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I thought PAS had a very thoughtful charisma. I thought he was a good-looking guy but not in the type of soap way that often leaves me cold (overdeveloped body, generic shirtless scenes, or a Ken doll look like the flop Bill recast at this time). I never really would have been going wild over him, but I did think he generated chemistry with Joie Lenz (and Laura Wright). I agree this would not have been likely with Budig. In all the soap work I've seen her in, I saw her have chemistry with one - count 'em, one - man (J Eddie Peck).

Obviously, this is just my opinion, and I know many loved her with any number of partners...but that was not on GL either.

I've seen this Michelle switch scene on YT before, so I know it's coming... which honestly makes me sad and happy. Sad because I'm a huge Budig fan and I'll miss seeing her, but happy because we got such a great character at AMC in Greenlee 😃

I so wish more of the GL fans liked Budig, but I get it. @DRW50 - I can't believe you didn't think Budig and Josh Duhamel had chemisty! They were such a great couple. I think Budig really became an adult on AMC and she had such great chemistry with the people she became friends with behind the scenes - Duhamel, Mathison, Minshew, etc.

As y'all know, I really fell in love with Michelle and Jesse, so I thought Budig and Benedeti had great chemistry. I wonder what happened to Benedeti, I should look him up.

For the life of me, I can't remember Greenlee and Jake together on AMC... maybe it was 2003 when I wasn't able to watch because of college.

4 minutes ago, alwaysAMC said:

For the life of me, I can't remember Greenlee and Jake together on AMC... maybe it was 2003 when I wasn't able to watch because of college.

2001/2002 mainly.

3 minutes ago, alwaysAMC said:

RIP Zaslow! Such an amazing talent and good guy.

We should always give MZ his flowers for Roger being the GOAT of CBS soap opera villains.

The writing has to take it's share of the blame re: Budig's Michelle. I'm not sure even Lenz would've been the Michelle I'd envisioned, but she comes closest to it. But Michelle never really escaping the mob influence before being shipped out of town was disappointing to me. Of course, I was beyond caring by the time St Alban leaves, but still.

Part of the September 26, 1978 episode. Some of this has been around - not sure if as much as we have here, but maybe I am wrong.

Any Sara/Dean Bradford fans, this is your episode. And Elizabeth with the shortest haircut I can remember on her. (she and Jackie really went through the hairstyles)

Guiding Light - (September 26,1978)

The channel has put up a number of 1979 episodes - again not entirely sure how much is already around.

25 minutes ago, P.J. said:

The writing has to take it's share of the blame re: Budig's Michelle. I'm not sure even Lenz would've been the Michelle I'd envisioned, but she comes closest to it. But Michelle never really escaping the mob influence before being shipped out of town was disappointing to me. Of course, I was beyond caring by the time St Alban leaves, but still.

That makes sense regarding the writing.

If this even makes sense, I view Budig as my first Michelle (I only saw the very end of Miner, but clearly didn't have the emotional attachment, not seeing Marueen's death). So having a new Michelle (like fans did with Budig coming in) is hard for me. But, for my Michelle, I never would have wanted her to get involved in the mob. I'm nervous, but also kind of intrigued, to see if I'd be into this mob thing or not. I say that because my soap knowledge tells me Danny and Michelle were super popular, so there had to be something special there... but I don't normally enjoy mob-style stories.