I think the answer is one of two things. 1) Shift the main focus to Jack. Bring back Kyle, Kemo, Diane and make this new girl Jack's. Then make either Nick or Adam into the secondary nemesis (Jack role).

Or, if they really must turn Adam into the new Victor I think the only answer is for Adam to get away with his crimes for a very long time, if not forever. People do get away with murder in the real world, just like Phyllis got away with attempted murder on the show. I don't see how else they can do it (but I have a feeling we are going to find out how they think they can).

God, I hope not, that would be a horrible underestimation of the audience's intelligence, and I wouldn't put it past them.

Now is the time more than ever that Y&R needs a strong storyteller. Where's aMLProducutions to beat his Labine to Y&R drum even louder when you need him?

They can make Adam faux-Adam. You know they would totally go there. And Muhney is perfectly cast as an impostor. It really suits him.

We've discussed this before and at this point, I support this idea 100%. Not because it's a good idea, but because it's one of the few ways to turn this situation around. The only problem is, how could he have possibly fooled Hope? Why is this guy hearing Hope's voice and breaking down over it?

God, I hope not, that would be a horrible underestimation of the audience's intelligence, and I wouldn't put it past them.

Now is the time more than ever that Y&R needs a strong storyteller. Where's aMLProducutions to beat his Labine to Y&R drum even louder when you need him?

It sure would, but what is worse? Having him get away with his crimes or having them come to light and the guy is walking around free interacting with the good people of GC? Why wouldn't any number of people either kill him or punch him in the face every single time they see him?

We've discussed this before and at this point, I support this idea 100%. Not because it's a good idea, but because it's one of the few ways to turn this situation around. The only problem is, how could he have possibly fooled Hope? Why is this guy hearing Hope's voice and breaking down over it?

Why was this guy living in Hope's house? Where is the real Adam?

They won't do it though.

But the show doesn't need another importer or doppelganger story anyway.

With this regime... If they want it, they'll write it no matter what. Logic and common sense isn't a priority with these people.

With this regime... If they want it, they'll write it no matter what. Logic and common sense isn't a priority with these people.

Touche.

Claire Labine would be utterly wrong for Y&R. It takes a certain type of person to write about the ornate couch.

They could use one of the Bell proteges, and no, not Janice Ferri Esser or Natalie Minardi Slater.

What are Trent Jones and/or James Houghton doing these days?

Jones particularly interests me, given the great writers he's written for. Labine, Long, Curlee, and Bill Bell had to have seen something in him to keep him on their writing staffs or hire him.

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Knowing the idiots at SONY, they'll get Dena Higley over to Y&R and have her be a story consultant at DAYS.

I think above all, the show needs someone who can tell honest, relatable stories that are in character for the characters. It really doesn't need to be a Bell protege per se, just someone who can tell more creative, balanced, and cohesive stories.

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The bottom line is that at this point, Y&R is deeply compromised.

To my knowledge, most if not all of its HWs (until Latham) have come from within the Bell machine, thus they all had at least some innate understanding of the show's tone, style, history and focus. The show now has Maria Bell but clearly that's not enough. And they are not going to go out and get another Bell. Sony will go out and get a Lorraine Broderick, or a Culliton, or if they're lucky a Stephen Demorest, but these people are not Y&R. They're other soaps, and they bring the baggage and scent of the soaps just like Sheffer and Scott Hamner. I like many of these writers (including Hogan Sheffer) in their proper arenas. Y&R apparently is not it. It's too rarefied, which is part of the reason I've never been a huge fan of the show.

There will not be another Bell Jr or proto-Bell or Bell assistant to guide the show back on course. Y&R is in the open air now. Whoever they get, if they get anyone, which I doubt - or anyone you could choose to get - will be someone different, who will continue to modulate and mutate Y&R into something different, which is now what it is probably going to continue to become until its cancellation.

I agree, but I don't think a writer necessarily has to try to fit the old tone or style of the show. Most people just more cohesive, honest, and character-driven storylines. On Y&R currently, the storylines are so horrendously executed, the day to day writing is atrocious, the pacing is a mess, and there's no variety or balance. Not to mention, the show puts shock value ahead of character development, romance, corporate intrigue, and other defining Y&R traits and classic soap traits. It's like a poor man's GH (without the talented writing staff) bordering on Passions.

While a stronger storyteller from outside of the Bell universe may carry some baggage and probably from other shows, surely they'd understand the basics of classic soap opera.

Right now, Y&R feels like an anti-soaps. It's like it's trying to be some primetime HBO show, only Y&R doesn't have the budget or writers to back it up.

The show right now, with three very different and troubled Head Writers, has too many cooks in the kitchen. It doesn't know what it wants to be.

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I don't think Y&R is trying to be cable. That's GH. I think Y&R is just trying to be a bad soap on another network.

I don't think Y&R is trying to be cable. That's GH. I think Y&R is just trying to be a bad soap on another network.

That's true too, they've seemingly burnt through all the absurd and ridiculous soap opera cliches (the ones people make fun of soaps for) this year alone.

There will not be another Bell Jr or proto-Bell or Bell assistant to guide the show back on course. Y&R is in the open air now. Whoever they get, if they get anyone, which I doubt - or anyone you could choose to get - will be someone different, who will continue to modulate and mutate Y&R into something different, which is now what it is probably going to continue to become until its cancellation.

...And that is the saddest thing.