Didn't they also say how this summer was supposed to be fun or have romance or something?

They've gone back and forth so many times with Shick and Phick, and have absolutely demolished Sharon's character. She has become the most plot-driven character on the show, she's almost laughable. The latest being her very convenient blurting out of the truth right as Nick could overhear her.

Didn't they also say how this summer was supposed to be fun or have romance or something?

MAB said the summer was going to be fun and filled with characters who haven't had storylines for a while, which was a complete lie. But it's not the first time she's lied in an interview...

The convoluted, morbid, plot heavy, and mundane storytelling is continuing well into the fall...

Edited August 29, 200916 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

I don't know if this is a spoiler or not but about an upcoming episode I read that

Phyllis tells Jack it's all his fault Summer is brain damaged, because Mary Jane wanted revenge on him. How does that work??? How about not leaving your child with a woman you barely know!

Not only that, here's how they plan on drumming up sympathy for Victor and totally drop his comeuppance when he's exposed as the person who brought Patty Jane to town, and it's at Colleen's expense, the girl he tortured throughout the final few months of her life...

After Victor is exposed for bringing Patty Jane to town, most of his loved ones turn their backs on him. However, one day he magically has another heart attack. Anyway, Colleen will die during this time frame, and Victor will end up getting her heart.

That's some really crass storytelling, and they totally wasted the Colleen character for nothing. Also, Victor treated this girl like s.hit for her the last couple of months of her life and she ends up saving the day for him?

You know Victor's health problems will get all of those loved ones to come back in Victor's corner and forget all of the damage he's caused, and then poor Jack will probably be blamed for everything and Victor will end up getting no blame in overall end.

This show is written and run by idiots.

Edited August 29, 200916 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

Not only that, here's how they plan on drumming up sympathy for Victor and totally drop his comeuppance when he's exposed as the person who brought Patty Jane to town, and it's at Colleen's expense, the girl he tortured throughout the final few months of her life...

After Victor is exposed for bringing Patty Jane to town, most of his loved ones turn their backs on him. However, one day he magically has another heart attack. Anyway, Colleen will die during this time frame, and Victor will end up getting her heart.

It sounds like the pacing is as crappy as usual.

To have his family abandon him and then suddenly he is beloved again because of a heart transplant? Too bad Hogan doesn't write for OLTL, he would have had the family flock around Victor Lord after he almost got Natalie's heart. They had a great story which unfolded over months and months where Victor alienated his entire family, and as soon as this regime showed up, the forged diary nonsense and Sabrina slaughter made Victor a hero again. Now we have a young woman murdered to prop him.

Not only that, here's how they plan on drumming up sympathy for Victor and totally drop his comeuppance when he's exposed as the person who brought Patty Jane to town, and it's at Colleen's expense, the girl he tortured throughout the final few months of her life...

After Victor is exposed for bringing Patty Jane to town, most of his loved ones turn their backs on him. However, one day he magically has another heart attack. Anyway, Colleen will die during this time frame, and Victor will end up getting her heart.

That's some really crass storytelling, and they totally wasted the Colleen character for nothing. Also, Victor treated this girl like s.hit for her the last couple of months of her life and she ends up saving the day for him?

You know Victor's health problems will get all of those loved ones to come back in Victor's corner and forget all of the damage he's caused, and then poor Jack will probably be blamed for everything and Victor will end up getting no blame in overall end.

This show is written and run by idiots.

That sounds just TERRIBLE. Y&R is now an ABC soap. That's something right out of Chuck Pratt or Megan McTavish's playbook.

I have to confess, in spite of my boycott, I watched a little bit of the Paul/Patty Jane stuff this week. (Hell, I put all that time in this story; I might as well watch the reveal). I'm not compelled to watch anymore of it. It's subpar, despite the efforts of the actors.

Edited August 29, 200916 yr by Faulkner

That sounds just TERRIBLE. Y&R is now an ABC soap. That's something right out of Chuck Pratt or Megan McTavish's playbook.

MAB and her henchmen are turning into a poor man's McTavish, and you know it's BAD when you're a watered down equivalent of THAT.

I have to confess, in spite of my boycott, I watched a little bit of the Paul/Patty Jane stuff this week. (Hell, I put all that time in this story; I might as well watch the reveal). I'm not compelled to watch anymore of it. It's subpar, despite the efforts of the actors.

Total word. The actors are doing their best, but the writing is just so soul-less, crappily executed, campy for all the wrong reasons, hallow, and void of any real substance.

It doesn't help that it gets played for camp and laughs in Monday's US episode with Gloria and Jeffrey, two useless and directionless characters.

Edited August 29, 200916 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

Oh crap. This is pure bull. And then when he gets her heart, he will suddenly become remorseful for his behavior, apologize to people and everything. And as soon as they believe they're redeemed Victor's recent actions, he'll start acting like a pig again after Braeden gets tired of playing a sweet Victor.

I really don't know what more to say. When you look at some other writers who have gone wrong, at least you get the feeling that they tried and that they knew what they were doing even though things didn't go well. However, looking at these writers, we know that they don't know nothing about good writing so even at coming up with ideas they already failed miserably.

Oh crap. This is pure bull. And then when he gets her heart, he will suddenly become remorseful for his behavior, apologize to people and everything. And as soon as they believe they're redeemed Victor's recent actions, he'll start acting like a pig again after Braeden gets tired of playing a sweet Victor.

It's sick as far as I'm concerned. I cannot believe what's become of this show.

This is not new. Victor has never paid for his actions. Not under Bill Bell or any subsequent headwriter. Jack is the one who pays or loses. It is the Y&R way.

It's not about paying, it's how Victor gets off the hook and at the expense of a character that he did nothing but torture until she ultimately died, and because of that, she ends up saving his pathetic life.

This sounds like the storyline of the year.

Y&R deserves the WGA Award and the Emmy for this original plot twist.

And let's not forget the unpredictable "they never saw it coming because we're that clever" baby switch coming up.

And let's not forget the unpredictable "they never saw it coming because we're that clever" baby switch coming up.

Word. seriously, who still wants that convoluted as hell baby switch? You know that was something Maria and her hacks probably read about on one of the boards and went with it.

A baby switch is the LAST THING this show needs, and it will be happening. How f.ucking pathetic.

Edited August 29, 200916 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

Don't be mistaken, they will go through every single soap opera moment during the next few months. We'll have more explosions, hostage situations, psychos, affairs, baby switches in only a few weeks.

Don't be mistaken, they will go through every single soap opera moment during the next few months. We'll have more explosions, hostage situations, psychos, affairs, baby switches in only a few weeks.

Remember when we were constantly told to hold out hope for the fall? Well, it looks like we were right to not be optimistic and just expect more of the same lame and hack writing.

There's no use defending anyone on this writing team, especially Bell, Sheffer, and Hamner. They ALL need to go.