Here's one of my main beefs with the networks. Their market shares have been dispersed. In the 70's, all you had were the big three... PBS, and a couple or three independent stations in each market (And many times, those independent stations had agreements to air network shows that were pre-empted by sporting events) The advent of cable has really killed them. Granted, some cable channels are owned by the networks, but many are also owned by the likes of Viacom. Instead of using the cable TV and satellite companies for sponsors and advertizing revenue, they need to ENCOURAGE, through public service annnouncements during prime time and daytime, OVER THE AIR viewership. Especially with an economy in free fall, and the addition of digital sub-channels... a FREE alternative to what people have now would certainly help them hold onto their market share. And it would make the affiliates happy as clams. They need to pump up the advantages:

1: TOTALLY FREE

2: About twice as many channels as before, most markets have over 20 channels

3: Superior HD picture quality due to lack of digital compression

4: Homeowner's associations CAN NOT prohibit a homeowner from installing a rooftop antenna.

If they did this, this economic downturn could have EASILY turned into a big homecoming for the big three. So many of the younger set don't even KNOW you can get TV with an antenna. The people who really MUST have cable will still pay for it, but this was opporotunity to get back millions of viewers wasted.

Not a chance. And here's why...

1.) People are still confused about what DTV is and they assume they have to pay for it.

2.) Depends on which market you're in. I can barely get the big three.

3.) Again, in my market, that is not always the case. It's pathetic how syndicated programming on a Hearst Station in my area is still NOT being recorded and then broadcast in HD. That's pathetic.

4.) But you will still be ridiculed by your neighbors.

I refuse to pay for cable. And initially, I thought Digital Signals were a boon to the Over the Air viewer. But it really depends on where you live in a town and the strength of your antenna. Without that, Digital Television is useless.

I use my HDTV to watch TV online. The picture quality when I watch GH(maybe because they take some of the frames out) looks way better online than over the air. The show still LOOKS good when I am watching both ways, but when I watch GH online, there's alot more depth.

Not a chance. And here's why...

1.) People are still confused about what DTV is and they assume they have to pay for it.

2.) Depends on which market you're in. I can barely get the big three.

3.) Again, in my market, that is not always the case. It's pathetic how syndicated programming on a Hearst Station in my area is still NOT being recorded and then broadcast in HD. That's pathetic.

4.) But you will still be ridiculed by your neighbors.

I refuse to pay for cable. And initially, I thought Digital Signals were a boon to the Over the Air viewer. But it really depends on where you live in a town and the strength of your antenna. Without that, Digital Television is useless.

I use my HDTV to watch TV online. The picture quality when I watch GH(maybe because they take some of the frames out) looks way better online than over the air. The show still LOOKS good when I am watching both ways, but when I watch GH online, there's alot more depth.

People are confused because the networks and local affiliates didn't spell it out in elementary school language (PBS did a pretty good job, though). And people need to realize that a set of rabbit ears won't do it anymore.. most of the time. Another huge problem is that places like Walmart sell these poorly made RCA converter boxes that can't pull in signal worth a DAMN. I had a friend who had one fo those, I went over to his house... he had 30 percent signal strength, and dropouts galore. I disconnected the RCA box and exchanged it with the Zenith box, and BOOM. 90 percent signal strength and rock solid reception 24/7. There's that much difference in covnerter box performance. Channelmaster, Zenith, and Insignia ( Insignia is same as Zenith, just re-branded as Best Buy's store brand) are the three brand that REALLY perform. Our family's other farm, which is 65 miles form the TV stations get reception solid 24/7. You should get more than the big three unless your'e in a TINY market... what market are you in? I'm officially in the Kansas City market, but live far enough away that in addition to Kansas City, I also get PBS and ABC from Columbia, MO. I guess in the burbs your neighbor might laugh at you... I just never think of such things, because out here in farm country, EVERYONE has a TV antenna. Until 10 years ago, a rooftop antenna out here was your only choice. You used the antenna, or you didn't watch TV.

Yea, I asked the same question in the writers thread. So would his time at DAYS be included in time served in his contract? Or did he get an entirely new deal at Y&R?

Depends on whose payroll Hogan is - if SONY does handle the contract issues and is his employer (unlike just DAYS or Y&R) they could have shuffled him around since it is the same job description.

In other bad news, according to Y&R credits, Yvonne Zima (Daisy) is now on contract.

Barf.

You know they are making fan-bases angry all around. They are lacking in gay storytelling unlike their promise, they have shamefully neglected their rich black characters, people hate the misogyny, the lack of character development,the out of character choices, questionable and bad casting choices, the bad plot execution and resolutions. Is somebody this overconfident, uncaring, or plain blind?

Edited November 19, 200916 yr by classicmoment

In other bad news, according to Y&R credits, Yvonne Zima (Daisy) is now on contract.

Barf.

I'm surprised she wasn't all along. They seem to have a lot of plans for her.

I hope they can de-age her by about five years and so something about that ridiculous hair and the dead line readings.

The Young and the NewFaces

That's what this show should rename itself.

How many characters does Y&R have now?

Sony has always been short sighted when marketing things. Like I'ts said, Y&R should have a website store with T-shirts, coffee mugs, DVD sets, you name it.

You mean like this one?

http://cbs.seenon.com/?v=cbs-theyoungandtherestless

You mean like this one?

http://cbs.seenon.com/?v=cbs-theyoungandtherestless

You know, I never knew that existed! It does make part of my point, a short promo on the show for the online store would go along way to hawking that merchandise. I don't like the fact that it's mostly "Crimson lights" crap, and not Y&R. I see what DMAREX is saying about most of the show propping 5 or 6 characters. They've always done this character propping, just look at the blatant character propping of TEVN here:

It's just much more prevelant now, and things are falling trrough the cracks all over the place. Like... WHERE IS JOHN RUBINSTEIN?

You know, I never knew that existed! It does make part of my point, a short promo on the show for the online store would go along way to hawking that merchandise. I don't like the fact that it's mostly "Crimson lights" crap, and not Y&R. I see what DMAREX is saying about most of the show propping 5 or 6 characters. They've always done this character propping, just look at the blatant character propping of TEVN here:

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=WWecNu3_nF0

It's just much more prevelant now, and things are falling trrough the cracks all over the place. Like... WHERE IS JOHN RUBINSTEIN?

My all time favorite (another CBS show) is this one:

This is a real item available for sale! $14.99. At the B&B fan-club/official site.

Hopefully, Pratt's firing will have a domino effect and the Head Writers at Y&R will be fired and replaced too.

Make it happen, Sony and CBS!

Pratt's firing gives me hope that someone out there knows these shows suck and are trying to fix things. Whether it works over the long haul is to be seen though, but it's an optimistic start.

So many people thought Pratt would be writing AMC's finale, let's hope Maria Arena Bell, Hogan Sheffer, and Scott Hamner won't be writing Y&R's finale and we'll get a more competent writing team.

Edited November 20, 200916 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

My all time favorite (another CBS show) is this one:

This is a real item available for sale! $14.99. At the B&B fan-club/official site.

Your'e shitting me!!!!

Hopefully, Pratt's firing will have a domino effect and the Head Writers at Y&R will be fired and replaced too.

Make it happen, Sony and CBS!

Pratt's firing gives me hope that someone out there knows these shows suck and are trying to fix things. Whether it works over the long haul is to be seen though, but it's an optimistic start.

So many people thought Pratt would be writing AMC's finale, let's hope Maria Arena Bell, Hogan Sheffer, and Scott Hamner won't be writing Y&R's finale and we'll get a more competent writing team.

Why do you think an ABC decision concerning a low-rated show would prompt Sony and CBS to do anything?

And can we please stop talking about Y&R having a finale? It's more morbid than Hogan Sheffer's writing!

I don't see SonyBell firing The Hog or the disrespectful dummy anytime soon

Why do you think an ABC decision concerning a low-rated show would prompt Sony and CBS to do anything?

And can we please stop talking about Y&R having a finale? It's more morbid than Hogan Sheffer's writing!

Why do you think an ABC decision concerning a low-rated show would prompt Sony and CBS to do anything?

Pratt is a high profile writer that was touted as AMC's savior, and he was BFF's with the head of ABC Daytime. No one thought he would be fired, at least not this soon. AMC is actually up in the ratings, for the most part, too.

So, if surprises can happen there, they can surely happen at Y&R. What part of that sentiment did you not understand?

If there's someone out there that sees Y&R in in need of some creative revamping, there might be more hope left for the show than we thought. No one expected anyone see the disaster Pratt was at AMC, at least not this fast.

And can we please stop talking about Y&R having a finale? It's more morbid than Hogan Sheffer's writing!

It's going to happen one day, sooner or later...

Edited November 23, 200916 yr by Y&RWorldTurner