I just hate that Mac is such a dull annoying character. I hate more that the put right into this love story wil billy without reintroducing her to the canvas and moving her around.

I've always loved Mac, but I agree with your last statement. I would have liked to see her reintroduced via her family before things started up with Billy or anyone else. At this point, I'm very happy with Clem in the role, but I do hope this romance with Billy doesn't work out.

The quad would need to be on another 20 years for that to be true. I do hate this quad and I'm ready for it to end, but it has nothing on Brooke/Ridge and their 12 marriages.

CK can't toughen up Lily because Lily comes off as a joke under CK. CKLily can't even scare Summer at this point.

Just remember when she falls for the next man three second flat we got to forget that she was with Kevin & Daniel. All we have to think she only be with Cane & Billy.

And another winner!

I've always loved Mac, but I agree with your last statement. I would have liked to see her reintroduced via her family before things started up with Billy or anyone else. At this point, I'm very happy with Clem in the role, but I do hope this romance with Billy doesn't work out.

See, her introduction was for a big Friday cliffhanger. (Actually, double-cliffhanger, since the cake fight was then too).

Maybe not enough thought went into the rest of it?

See, her introduction was for a big Friday cliffhanger. (Actually, double-cliffhanger, since the cake fight was then too).

Maybe not enough thought went into the rest of it?

Her introductgion was great.

her first week was good.

Then? To hell it went.

So, to once again TRY to discuss today's eppy... Did my ears deceive me, or did Phyllis call Nick a TURD? I don't think they've EVER used that word on Y&R before, have they? Gives a nice dose of reality, they just better NOT EVER have Jeanne Cooper utter such things. (Although I'm told she DOES is real life)

Daniel said it but Graz added "turd" himself.

I would LOVE to have Tracy back.

Won't happen.

There's a reason she stays gone.

i would love it if they just moved her into supporting kay/jill storyline and working or something.

That's the problem with Adrienne Frantz.

THAT was Mackenzie's story NOT Amber's.

CK can't toughen up Lily because Lily comes off as a joke under CK.

Yep!

Today's show: BEST EPISODE EVER. Tricia Cast gave an emmy award winning performance, the Sensitive caring nature that Doug Davidson portrayed, just AMAZING. The interaction of Cooper and Walton, and even Eileen Davidson's horror at the baby head, just stellar all the way around! And did I hear a new background music piece toward the end when Cane was kissing Lily goodbye? If it is new... it's the kind of music that FITS with this show! I hope that stupid hip-hoppy crap finds it's way to the trash can. That piece I'm referring to was wonderful. And the END... my GOSH, I LOVE IT!!!!

Edited June 19, 200916 yr by alphanguy74

It's always nice when TPTB let Doug Davidson act.

Today's show: BEST EPISODE EVER. Tricia Cast gave an emmy award winning performance, the Sensitive caring nature that Doug Davidson portrayed, just AMAZING. The interaction of Cooper and Walton, and even Eileen Davidson's horror at the baby head, just stellar all the way around! And did I hear a new background music piece toward the end when Cane was kissing Lily goodbye? If it is new... it's the kind of music that FITS with this show! I hope that stupid hip-hoppy crap finds it's way to the trash can. That piece I'm referring to was wonderful. And the END... my GOSH, I LOVE IT!!!!

The ending was good. I don't see how much longer the Adam story can go. Glad Nikki got involved in it. Monday's show looks great. I can't wait until Monday.

Tricia cast in the final scene was acting BRILLIANCE. It's amazing how she came back into this role after being gone for YEARS and to play every beat, every nuance exactly right, and with such mastery! DAMN that woman is GOOD!

Edited June 19, 200916 yr by alphanguy74

Tricia :wub: :wub:

Won't happen.

There's a reason she stays gone.

What is the reason?

What is the reason?

Why the hell is everyone talking about how they've known Estella for YEARS and that everyone knows what a strong and credible person she is? Um, Estella's only been on for a year, and rarely given any airtime. Why the hell are they forcing this lie on us? Nikki, Victor, and Ashley DO NOT know this woman, and we've barely seen them interact with her.

I'm not buying Daniel Goddard acting choices, his guilted sorrow act is atrocious. Horrible actor that needs to be shown the door already.

LAME as usual = Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

So, um, they show a flashback from Phillip III's death, and then at the end of the episode show his coffin empty? Um, ok, whatever....

This Phillip III return from the dead is plot driven and ridiculous. Thank goodness they brought Tricia Cast back, or else it would be totally unwatchable. How are they going to explain someone the audience saw die and buried being missing from his coffin?

Oh, and there was never any mention of Adam getting those eye injection tools from Dr. Taylor, even when he came to visit the ranch the first time. Now, suddenly, Dr. Taylor knows what Adam is talking about over the phone?

This show is plot, plot, plot with no substance at all.

Edited June 19, 200916 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

Why the hell is everyone talking about how they've known Estella for YEARS and that everyone knows what a strong and credible person she is? Um, Estella's only been on for a year, and rarely given any airtime. Why the hell are they forcing this lie on us? Nikki, Victor, and Ashley DO NOT know this woman, and we've barely seen them interact with her.

Maybe Estella is really Miguel with a sex change?

That would be a nice nod to history, wouldn't it?

Edited June 19, 200916 yr by bellcurve

Maybe Estella is really Miguel with a sex change?

That would be a nice nod to history, wouldn't it?

God, this show is so disappointing...

But of course, some will overlook these plot driven details and probably make excuses for why we're being led to believe Estella has years of history on this show.