I see nothing wrong with him standing up for something he believes in, even if it's something I don't agree with. If they knew this about him, but sprung on him, then I can't blame him for walking.

Sounds like the kiss is for shock value more than anything anyways

Well said!

Standing up for your beliefs??? It's not a stance, it's a weak smoke-screen of the truth which is - "Oh no, people will think I'm gay!". And every homophobe I've ever seen almost always has some sordid gay past. Miss California's mom had a gay affair. Ted Haggerty...Mark Foley...Larry Craig...the list goes on and on.

Girl - I am SO upset! You just convinced me to like Adam's direction and now the actor's a total douche. If this turns into another Miss California thing, it'll be good for Y&R to get the publicity but it'll be really hurtful. I'm a gay actor, but I have str8 actor friends who would kill to get this good a role. In this economy, he quits??? I have such a problem with "moral" actors who have no problem killing, screwing everyone, and doing the worst of things on-screen only to draw the line at a same-sex KISS! I am SO sick of this crap.

Let's wait for the whole story.

In this story, Adam was [ a ] having sex out of wedlock, [ b ] screwing with a woman who loved him for his own gain, [ c ] covetous (he wanted money and fortune), [ d ] got another woman fired for his gain, and [ e ] may be toying with Rafe -- possibly as far as homo-sect - shual kissing and f*cking for his own gain. Moreover, [ f ] his actions may result in the death of an unborn child and [ g ] insanity of a woman who showed him charity/kindness.

Wrap it all together, and we have loads 'o' sins here.

So, if he is Christian, perhaps he quit for all of the above reasons.

If he is just homophobic, or if he gets creeped out by feeling stubble on his lips (these aren't necessarily COMPLETELY the same thing), that's a different thing.

He may also still be worried about that gay stigma for his career. But I think Jake and Heath and Sean kind of showed that's a needless worry nowadays.

We don't know he's a bigot, I doubt we're getting the FULL story and I'm more interested in his side of the story before I go around calling him a bigot, or a homophobe.

Edited May 21, 200916 yr by Zendall Fan

OMG - I sent the link to Perez and he put it up! Wow. I feel good!

Dude...you just KILLED his career. Like seriously.

I'm not sure that's a good thing...but...wow.

We don't even know what the truth is. & I bet they won't let him talk either.

We don't know he's a bigot, I doubt we're getting the FULL story and I'm more interested in his side of the story before I go around calling him a bigot, or a homophobe.

You have fun. I'm enjoying my rush to judgment. I think there's only so many angles on "I ain't kissin' no dude." Most likely he will come out with a tepid defense by attacking the other writing for the character and tacking the gay material onto it -and pretending it is not the issue.

Dude...you just KILLED his career. Like seriously.

I'm not sure that's a good thing...but...wow.

If he broke contract, he already dealt with this in the worst, most public way imaginable. He asked for it.

You have fun. I'm enjoying my rush to judgment. I think there's only so many angles on "I ain't kissin' no dude." Most likely he will come out with a tepid defense by attacking the other writing for the character and tacking the gay material onto it -and pretending it is not the issue.

If he broke contract, he already dealt with this in the worst, most public way imaginable. He asked for it.

Here's the GOOD thing. If it made Perez, Engen and his team are going to HAVE to talk. This could even lead to Larry King.

This'll open up the can of worms.

And as I said, it will turn into a sort of dime-store Isaiah Washington thing - he will likely go on and on and on about story minutiae on Y&R while trying to deflect from the obvious problem; he didn't want to kiss a dude.

Wouldn't it have just been easier for him to say to MAB and Co that "Im not comfortable playing the role like this, or it goes against my beliefs blah blah blah".

I mean wouldn't they be obligated to not push for him to do this, cause he could sue them. Its just seems strange, that this is something they would force him to do if he was against it...

IMO, if he did quit over it then its really unfortunate because unless your working for FOX News lol or the 700 Club, your gonna get vilified and screwed (look at that Ms. California...she has alienated so many people, no one but FOX News and the Organizations against gays will touch her.).

The Perez flap was the best thing which could have happened for her. She was made into a martyr and is now beloved by many on the Christian right, as well as Fox News (very popular and powerful).

Chris Engen broke a contract, and that's going to haunt him for quite some time, regardless of his reasons for quitting.

And unlike Miss California, Chris Engen's employer base in Los Angeles and New York is not the Christian right.

Dude...you just KILLED his career. Like seriously.

I'm not sure that's a good thing...but...wow.

I'm sure there were MANY people who sent this link to Perez, which caused him to post a story about it.

I very much hope Chris Engen will be able to speak because something tells me his problems started long before the kiss. The writing for Adam has been bad, and getting worse, for almost a year now. I think the kiss is more of a flashpoint for both sides. That's what will get more publicity, and may have been what pushed him to quit, but other events led up to this moment.

You have fun. I'm enjoying my rush to judgment. I think there's only so many angles on "I ain't kissin' no dude." Most likely he will come out with a tepid defense by attacking the other writing for the character and tacking the gay material onto it -and pretending it is not the issue.

More power to ya if you want to rush to judgement. I'm still waiting for his side of the story.

I'm not going go around calling him names when for one, I don't have ALL of the facts(maybe we never will), and for two there are two sides to every story.

He's also allowed to believe in what he believes in

He's also allowed to believe in what he believes in

Of course he is. He also should be prepared for finding a new line of work, if his beliefs interfere with the mindset of the industry.

Chris Engen has a magnetic presence, a stunningly hot body and face and, despite the writing for him, I always enjoy watching him. If he goes, I'll be sad to see him go.

But... I will echo what others said--actors must act. Quitting over this will hurt his career, maybe destroy it, and there will possibly be no forgiveness by the entertainment industry. Everybody is entitled to his opinion, but it is a backward, disgusting opinion and I am very disappointed that an actor I enjoy feels this way. Honestly, I hope all this is false, but I can't help but feel that it isn't.