Y&R: Week of May 11, 2009

[DRW50]

JVA's Gloria did remind me of Flo.

I only have spotty memories of Flo, more conversations with Nina than any actual stories. I know she had the story where she dated David's alter ego. Did she move to Florida? Or did she just disappear? I don't know what Sharon Farrell has done since then; the last time I saw her was when she used to show up in the Mister Blackwell-ish section of Soap Opera Weekly.

Whatever happened to that beautiful apartment set Nina had?

[alphanguy74]

After Nina left, Malcolm moved into it... then it became Marsino's. I have to say, I am literally crapping myself with delight at the prospect of seeing Thom Beirdz on my screen on a regular basis. The Advocate needs to do a freaking FEATURE on his return, and all the gay possibilities therein. Let's remember, Thom has said in interviews several years ago that he would not return to acting unless he played a gay character. Something tells me that the love intrest for Rafe is going to be Phillip III!!! And can you imagine the romantic scenes between those two actors? Who needs porn!!!???

[Vanguardian]

PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE! Let Thom Bierdz be Phillip-back-from-the-dead! I always considered him to be Jill's son AND Little Phillip (who's really not so little anymore) is gonna need his dad! If Phillip IV is gay then Phillip III needs to be there for his son. Let his mom Nina stick around too! I want the three of them to be the cute family that they once were all those years ago.

[Paul Raven]

How about Rafe is Nina's son?

Then her two sons could fall in love and discover they are siblings!!!

[alphanguy74]

My memories are a bit murky on this, but I seem to remember them bringing Phillip into the hospital, we SAW him in the emergency room on an examining table, but I don't think we SAW HIM DIE. I remember the Doctor (Was it Dr. Steele? God forbid, I don't think it was Casey) coming out to tell Jill and Kay, but I don't think we ever SAW him die, nor any body... Y&R NEVER has open caskets. I'm not sure of this... but that is what I remember.

[cara mia]

I was going to say there might be too big of an age difference between Rafe and P3 but it's actually less than the age difference between Lily and Cane. If Rafe went to school with Billy, then he's 26-27. My question is, how old are P3 and Cane supposed to be?

[YRBB]

There's a link a few pages back to the video of Phillip's on-screen death, among Kay, Jill, Cricket, Nina, Phillip4 and Rex.

[Chris B]

Honestly, I would HATE for Phillip III to be gay. I haven't been posting much because I haven't watched Thursday or Friday yet, but I've still been keeping up with the thread. IMO, that would be a bad more for the story and the future of gay actors in general. Here we FINALLY have an openly gay male, which is much more controversial than an openly gay female, and you make him gay? How predictable . That certainly isn't going to help any of the gay leading men come out of the closet. Let Thom return and put him at the center of a freaking love triangle! Show that a gay man CAN be a straight leading man, regardless of his orientation. Not only that, but the character's history is too huge with Nina, Christine and potentially Phyllis, Victoria, etc. to throw that away. Phillip (if truly alive) should be a long term character at the center of things. Making him gay will limit his storylines and love interests and has NOTHING to do with the character history. It would be another thing tacked onto an already packed story. His return to Genoa City is like two years worth of story and should be the main focus. Throwing in the gay element will a distraction and jump the shark moment.

Another thing I was wondering...why is Adam always fully dressed if he's just staying at the ranch? This reminds me of what Sharon Case said about wanting more casual nudity on soaps. I don't think his wardrobe is representative of his lifestyle at all. I want to see some skin, but regardless, he is too dressed to be comfortable in his cell. I'd like to see more characters in the nightgowns, guys with their shirts off, etc., but not in silly places. Since most Y&R characters have a home it's very possible to do.

[Paul Raven]

As I recall,Sharon farell went recurring and gradually,Flo was seen less and less.

I do remember her popping up one day after many months offscreen.

She continued to be mentioned ie Phillip is at my Mom's-and then like others before and after vanished from GC.

[Cashton]

I just watched Y&R again with a friend and he thinks Jill and Neil would make a good couple!? And you know what - I like it! Especially now that she's broke. Plus if Dru ever returned it would be SO DAMN GOOD!!!

[dm.]

Anything to keep him away from Tyra, really.

[Chris B]

I'd rather Neil be paired with Nina or Victoria. I can see Kristoff having great chemistry with Tricia Cast and he's about the only non-relative that Amelia Heinle has romantic chemistry with. If Dru ever returned, a relationship with Vicki would be a throwback to their history since the last time Dru returned she discovered he was with her. She hated the relationship then, so imagine how she'd feel now. I also wouldn't mind a relationship with Olivia, but only if Dru were never going to return. The Winters are already so segregated that putting Olivia with Neil would isolate them once Dru returned. Pairing him with Vicki or Nina ties him with major existing families.

Unfortunately, I'm sure the writers haven't thought past Tyra for him. Shame because that relationship is killing both characters. There are plenty of characters in both of their age ranges without story that each could be paired with. It's cases like these when the three HWs are just being stupid. A lot they do is right, but what isn't being done is troubling because it's all so simple. Maybe if they utilized those back burner characters better it would improve the pacing, since they'd have more stories. They seem to focus on one or two things at a time and everything takes a backseat to that.

[dm.]

Even though this gave Neil finally something different to do, the fact that he's working for Chancellor means that he'll get even less airtime than before.

[Y&RWorldTurner]

And oh well, Neil is a hideously boring and dull character, and he's always been this way.

[Chris B]

I can't give up on Neil so easy! I enjoyed him during the 90s and even during Dru's hiatus.