This was Corinne Jacker's era. 

Just seeing this snippet points to why viewers were not tuning in.

Apart from Cecile,everybody else was  a newbie.

Had there been an effort to incorporate more established characters into all of this,maybe things would have been different.

They dropped so many Frames and Matthews in these years and the new families had no staying power.

It was a lesson all soaps failed to learn from.

Howard R was looking hot here.

Petronia Paley managed to hang on another 5 years despite writing/producer overhauls.Such a classy/elegant presence.Quinn should have formed the basis of a new core family by having her marry,maybe step children  as well as bringing back Thom,now a divorced single mom,but instead they killed her off.

Edited July 30, 20169 yr by Paul Raven

1. Here is an obituary for Robert E. Short:
   
   Short, Robert E.
   
   May 5, 1921 - Jul. 25, 2016
   
   Robert Earl Short, 95, of Sarasota, formerly of Cincinnati, Ohio, passed away peacefully at home on July 25.
   
   Bob served in the U.S Army Signal Corps Photographic Service in the European and Pacific theaters during WWII. After graduating Phi Beta Kappa from Cornell University in 1949, he joined Procter and Gamble Productions and began a distinguished 34 year career.
   
   During Bob's tenure the Company developed many outstanding series which have become television classics: the original Dick Van Dyke Show, The Rifleman, The Rebel, and Car 54, Where Are You?
   
   In Daytime, under Bob's leadership, P&G became one of the world's largest suppliers of television entertainment with shows such as Search for Tomorrow, Guiding Light, As The World Turns, Edge of Night and Another World.
   
   Bob's vision, talent, judgment and taste were recognized by the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences in 1983 with an Emmy Award for Lifetime Achievement for "distinguished service to television and the public this medium serves."
   
   Bob is survived by his wife Linda, his children Maralyn, David and Austin, grandchildren Kevin Feige, Lauren Keskinel, Alan, Robin and Tommy Short, Andrew and Jen Short and great grandchildren Ella, Erik, Ali and Leyla.
   The family will have a celebration of his life at a later date.
   
   Contributions in honor of Bob to MAP International or Bread for the World will be appreciated.
   
   Guest book located at www.wiegandbrothers.com
   
   
   
   Published in Herald Tribune on Aug. 7, 2016
   - See more at: http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/heraldtribune/obituary.aspx?n=Robert-E-Short&pid=180888076#sthash.KJyAjBWn.dpuf

Barry Jenner who played Evan Webster 76/77 has died.

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/08/10/barry-jenner-dead-star-trek-deep-space-nine-family-matters-actor-dies-75

Edited August 12, 20169 yr by Paul Raven

 

SOD late breaking news Sept 27 1983 reported that Lewis Arlt would be playing Ted Bancfoft .Instead He appeared as David Thatcher.Was it a last minute change or did SOD get incorrect information?

SOD probably printed incorrect information.  Both Ted Bancroft (Luke Rielly)  and David Thatcher (Lewis Arlt) appeared in September 1983.  Jennifer Thatcher (Sofia Landon Geier) also showed up in September 1983, but she would later die in a car accident around Thanksgiving of 1983.

Interesting series of youtube videos, showcasing the various actresses who played Alice Matthews Frame on AW.

Really, there's no competition. Jacqueline Courtney was the definite Alice. Some of the other "actresses" were horrid.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

vetsoapfan I was wondering if you've seen the Danny Hill channel on Youtube? They've been uploading some old audio clips from '70s soaps. Some real treats. 

 

Who did you say you think the worst Alice was? 

vetsoapfan I was wondering if you've seen the Danny Hill channel on Youtube? They've been uploading some old audio clips from '70s soaps. Some real treats. 

 

Who did you say you think the worst Alice was? 

Wesley Pfenning was the worst, IMHO, and a painful, baffling choice for the role, but at least she did not last as long as Linda Borgenson, who was lethargic and colorless, and who had no chemistry with anyone.

 

And no, I have not seen that youtube channel, but I shall check it out. Thank you for the heads up!

The last scene between Alice and Rachel in the 1984-85 video clip was when Rachel was shot after being held hostage by Carl Hutchins.  Within a month after the scene in the hospital room, Jacqueline Courtney would be written off the show.  The show missed a big opportunity to move JC's Alice front and center.   Rachel would have amnesia from March well into the summer months.  During the story, Rachel leaves Mac and moves out of the mansion.   Just think of what could have been if Mac rekindled his romance with Alice while he was separated Rachel.   In the hospital scene, they even talk about having the same taste in men.   Alice, not Rachel, would have had the upper hand while Rachel was suffering from amnesia.  TPTB really missed a great opportunity to use the show's history to generate story for Alice, Mac, and Rachel.

Harry Bellaver (Ernie Downs) having a few line troubles there ... funny I can recognize both his and Connie Ford's voices, but Robin Strasser's -- I assume that's Rachel they're talking to -- is unrecognizable. There's an Audra Lindley (Aunt LIz) audio clip floating around in which the voice is similarly sped up, which is too bad, because it undercuts how malevolent Lindley's Liz was (as opposed to Irene Dailey's more ineffectual Aunt Liz). 

Does anyone know if AW ever tired to get Robin Strasser to return to the show after 1972?  After this point Victoria Wyndham owned the role of Rachel, but I'd be curious to know if they ever tried to get Robin back.  

Also, did AW ever try to get Beverlee McKinsey back in the role of Iris around the time she started playing Alexandra on GL in 1984?