Judith Bancroft is one of a long list of popular former AW actors who would have returned if the writers and producers understood the show's history.  

1 minute ago, Efulton said:

Judith Bancroft is one of a long list of popular former AW actors who would have returned if the writers and producers understood the show's history.  

9 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

The Red Swan is a storyline, yes, later, and I won't spoil anything, so this is a safe communication. Anyway, we heard about the Red Swan each & every day for about a year and a half. There were reasons, justifiable ones, why it went on so long. But, all of us were about ready to scream if they talked about that Da&ned Swan one more single time! Alternately some of us wished just to get our hands on it, for maybe 11 minutes & that would be enough time to destroy that awful thing.

Libidizone is the AMC equivalent. It was a chemical that made people lose all their inhibitions.

Y&R it's reliquary. Which is something like an ancient article. 

 

Every day for a year and a half?  Which year was this?  So are you saying there is an ACTUAL living creature RED swan in the show? Colour me shocked! Quack! s

 

Edited January 22, 2025Jan 22 by Maxim

2 minutes ago, Maxim said:

Every day for a year and a half?  Which year was this?  So are you saying there is an ACTUAL living creature RED swan in the show? Colour me shocked! Quack! s

 

No, not alive, an art object. Like a sculpture but not one. 

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2 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

No, not alive, an art object. Like a sculpture but not one. 

Now that sounds interesting! For real! Is it an ominous storyline in which an item is cursed... or something bad happens around it? 

44 minutes ago, Maxim said:

Now that sounds interesting! For real! Is it an ominous storyline in which an item is cursed... or something bad happens around it? 

The Red Swan was a MacGuffin.  In literature -- an object or device that serves as a trigger for the plot. Some soap opera MacGuffins have made for interesting storylines.  Sadly, the Red Swan was not one of them.  Poorly conceived and poorly written.  Probably one of AW's worst major storylines EVER.   

Edited January 22, 2025Jan 22 by Mona Kane Croft

3 minutes ago, Mona Kane Croft said:

The Red Swan was a MacGuffin.  In literature -- an object or device that serves as a trigger for the plot. Some soap opera MacGuffins have made for interesting storylines.  Sadly, the Red Swan was not one of them.  Poorly conceived and poorly written.  Probably one of AW's worst major storylines EVER.   

Ah! Which year was it?  

5 minutes ago, Maxim said:

Ah! Which year was it?  

1989

Just now, Mona Kane Croft said:

1989

Nooooo... why does my luck always has to be sooo bad. I was just beginning to enjoy the show!  Anyways - thank you for the clarification! I hope I "disagree" with you when I watch this storyline... And I hope I enjoy it. ❤️ Knowing my taste, probably won't... but we'll see. 

2 hours ago, Mona Kane Croft said:

Just wait a few weeks, until Matthew buys condoms from a former Lenore Curtain!!  I actually felt sorry for actress Judith Barcroft.   

She mentioned in her WLS interview how degrading the experience was.

https://www.welovesoaps.net/2010/02/catching-up-with-judith-barcroft-part-1.html

5 minutes ago, Maxim said:

Nooooo... why does my luck always has to be sooo bad. I was just beginning to enjoy the show!  Anyways - thank you for the clarification! I hope I "disagree" with you when I watch this storyline... And I hope I enjoy it. ❤️ Knowing my taste, probably won't... but we'll see. 

I didn't really mind the story. The worst I could say was I found it somewhat dull.

8 hours ago, TheyStartedOnSoaps said:

NBC was thrilled with JFP numbers, but it looked bad on P&G that Another World had higher demos than their jewel in the crown ATWT. It is embarrasing that more women were tuned into Another World than As The World Turns from P&G stand-point. I'm sure they were fine with AW having high ratings, as long as it was always behind ATWT. 

Given how much P&G had let ATWT rot away in this time period I wonder if they would have been as upset if JFP had not eviscerated so much of the budget.

On 1/19/2025 at 8:00 PM, Melroser said:

Susan Sullivan posted on X a short time ago that she is suffering from lung cancer and lymphoma. I was not aware of this. I hope she beats this and pulls through!

I have only seen a few clips of her on AW. I know her mostly from Falcon Crest. I wish there was more of her work out there as Lenore. 

Heartbreaking to hear this - I knew she had had cancer but didn't know her current status. I hope all the best for her.

25 minutes ago, Mona Kane Croft said:

The Red Swan was a MacGuffin.  In literature -- an object or device that serves as a trigger for the plot. Some soap opera MacGuffins have made for interesting storylines.  Sadly, the Red Swan was not one of them.  Poorly conceived and poorly written.  Probably one of AW's worst major storylines EVER.   

And, I would add, it was detested!!! 

1 hour ago, Maxim said:

Now that sounds interesting! For real! Is it an ominous storyline in which an item is cursed... or something bad happens around it? 

Only if we mean that something bad happened to the fans of the show! But, in that case, YES.

36 minutes ago, Mona Kane Croft said:

The Red Swan was a MacGuffin.  In literature -- an object or device that serves as a trigger for the plot. Some soap opera MacGuffins have made for interesting storylines.  Sadly, the Red Swan was not one of them.  Poorly conceived and poorly written.  Probably one of AW's worst major storylines EVER.  

The Red Swan was probably the first time that Donna Swajeski strayed from Harding Lemay’s bible.  Rachel receives the Red Swan as a gift shortly after Mac’s death. The Red Swan was totally her storyline.

24 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I didn't really mind the story. The worst I could say was I found it somewhat dull.

Quite honestly I prefer a trainwreck to... dull. But thank you for trying to keep my spirits up. 😊 You all will see my honest reaction when I get to this part. I just hope it's not Margaret DePriest level of cringe dialogue! 

 

 

25 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

She mentioned in her WLS interview how degrading the experience was.

https://www.welovesoaps.net/2010/02/catching-up-with-judith-barcroft-part-1.html

Barcroft left AW in 1971 on her own- no one showed her the door.  Then, Agnes Nixon wrote her a part on All My Children.  No one made her take the dayplayer part of the pharmacist on AW in the late 80s.  She “degraded” herself, no one at AW was to blame for that.

19 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

And, I would add, it was detested!!! 

Only if we mean that something bad happened to the fans of the show! But, in that case, YES.

Should I be worried about my mental health while watching this so-called SWAN? 🤣