and they are not grey or complex or anything like that. the trouble they bring is bad trouble, annoying trouble. not great dramatic trouble. this latest kevin storyline was an obs attempt to take the character back to his roots, but it failed IMHO. GR was fantastic. The writing was even good. But kevin.. UGH. Its done, let him go.

And I seriously ain't interested in Kevin having to defend his actions yet again. It's been done before. And if they choose to have Jana's headaches turn her evil again, the it's another redo.

And I seriously ain't interested in Kevin having to defend his actions yet again.

Or Michael defending his actions yet again.

Or Michael defending his actions yet again.

And then there's Gloria who doesn't even bother defending herself, she just jumps from a scheme to a scheme.

And then there's Gloria who doesn't even bother defending herself, she just jumps from a scheme to a scheme.

I have faith that Paul R/Maria B see the error of their ways with the Kevin and Neal stories; they are both big clunkers but still watchable compared to the crap on most other soaps. They need to wrap the Kevin story up quickly and move on. Let's give them a chance. I could do with out CB/Michael. His histrionic acting tells me he needs a long vacation with Anthony Geary in Amsterdam. Jana needs to be off teh canvas. Gloria and Jeff can work with better storylines.

I'm torn. Rikkart is a good actor, but the character is also overexposed. I would send him away to the funny farm for 5 years at LEAST, keep Michael around and give him and Lauren some drama to test their marriage (Maybe Eden could be a runaway or something?) I think Jeffrey needs to be GONE, SOMEHOW... and since Gloria didn't get her comeuppance and is not in jail right now, she needs to get EVERYTHING she wants in life, swimming in money from Victor, let everything go her way and have her happy as a clam for the next 3 months, and then she gets hit by a bus. Jana can be dropped to recurring, we can see her about as often as we see Gina.

Edited April 8, 200916 yr by alphanguy74

Madame Mim

The resemblance is uncanny.

I have faith that Paul R/Maria B see the error of their ways with the Kevin and Neal stories; they are both big clunkers but still watchable compared to the crap on most other soaps. They need to wrap the Kevin story up quickly and move on. Let's give them a chance. I could do with out CB/Michael. His histrionic acting tells me he needs a long vacation with Anthony Geary in Amsterdam. Jana needs to be off teh canvas. Gloria and Jeff can work with better storylines.

I've always noticed that CLB gets a bit swishy whenever there is a scene that calls for him to be frantic or excited... poor thing, it must be hard to reign himself in! LOL

and since Gloria didn't get her comeuppance and is not in jail right now, she needs to get EVERYTHING she wants in life, swimming in money from Victor, let everything go her way and have her happy as a clam for the next 3 months, and then she gets hit by a bus.

Alphanguy, this is the best idea I've heard in AGES! :lol:

and since Gloria didn't get her comeuppance and is not in jail right now, she needs to get EVERYTHING she wants in life, swimming in money from Victor, let everything go her way and have her happy as a clam for the next 3 months, and then she gets hit by a bus.

I like the sound of that. It would be such an irony for her character and such a joy for the fans! :lol:

I like the sound of that. It would be such an irony for her character and such a joy for the fans!

You don't speak for all of us :-).

Honestly, I keep hoping that she'll have a little self-realization, APOLOGIZE PROFUSELY AND HEARTFELTLY for exposing the boys to Tom, and then start scheming to protect her cubs. She can still scheme...she should just be a little less self-serving.

But therein lies the problem with the soap audience. We're all freaking moralists. Why can't we just accept and enjoy bad people? We do in other genres. Why do the "bad" folks always have to die in a trash compactor?

There is something compelling about everyday evil, as it pretty much exists in the world. Some people never do the right thing.

The other thing is that Gloria really isn't always intentionally evil. She's reckless, and that is a far more compelling thing to watch. Amber is reckless too...and I just love that little kewpie.

You don't speak for all of us :-).

Honestly, I keep hoping that she'll have a little self-realization, APOLOGIZE PROFUSELY AND HEARTFELTLY for exposing the boys to Tom, and then start scheming to protect her cubs. She can still scheme...she should just be a little less self-serving.

But therein lies the problem with the soap audience. We're all freaking moralists. Why can't we just accept and enjoy bad people? We do in other genres. Why do the "bad" folks always have to die in a trash compactor?

There is something compelling about everyday evil, as it pretty much exists in the world. Some people never do the right thing.

The other thing is that Gloria really isn't always intentionally evil. She's reckless, and that is a far more compelling thing to watch. Amber is reckless too...and I just love that little kewpie.

I have always preferred bad, complex characters to goodie two shoes with no depth....

I agree with you for the most part.... not about Gloria though. Its too late for her to be salvaged.

When Gloria went to Jeff and said, "What did Kevin do to you?" All I could think is, it's all your fault BITCH. She's the one who subjected a toddler to torture at the hands of his father, because Tom must have stimulated her nether regions really good. Gloria should really learn to take some responsibility for how her sons have turned out and maybe then she'd be able to eventually redeem herself. This constant blaming of others for all her problems is pathetic and why she has worn out her welcome.

I really enjoyed Micheal and Kevin beating up Jeff. I still want Jeff gone though and he can take that troll of a wife with him.

And I agree with MarkH and Adam. The villains are the more interesting characters, which is why I am rooting for the Terminators This is why Gloria is not one of my faves, she's not a villain, she's a wannabe victim. Go Sheila, Go Phyllis, Go Tricia.....you BITCHES rock.

Edited April 8, 200916 yr by BadZoe

She also needs to do some smiling and turn that frown upside down

Mac never was one to smile much with the exception of Rachel Kimsey's Mac, which wasn't the actress' fault.

I agree mac has always been lousy - however i hope they make her work. make her interesting and complex. layer her. because honestly, i always thought billy too was a bore -- until recently.

Billy Miller has brought his character to life and I hope that Clementine Ford gets the chance to do the same with Mac. I'm hoping they go the route of Kevin/Mac/JT, now wouldn't that bite Billy Abbott's ass after finding out that he is no longer related to Mac.

The Baldwins need to die.

All of them.

Painfully.

Agreed! LML made the mistake of trying to make the Baldwin/Fishers a core family.

A question popped up into my head yesterday: Wasn't there another Mac between Ashley B and Rachel Kimsey's? I think her name was Kelly something. What is everyone's opinion of how she did as Mac?