I cant speak for mark, but i think JC is amazing.

Yes, Judith so is.

Judith reminds me of one of those pretentious theatre geeks I knew in college. You know, the ones who thought that everything, no matter how stupid it was, had a sense of drama to it? I'm sure she's a nice woman though.

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But you don't like her as an actress?

But you don't like her as an actress?

She's way too over the top for my taste. Her acting style is more suitable a for a... John Waters film.

I think Gloria needs to be killed off and Judith brought as another character after a six-months break.

I think Gloria needs to be killed off and Judith brought as another character after a six-months break.

I think Judith needs to be banished from CBS TV City altogether. I do not like actors coming back as another character, yuck.

I think Judith needs to be banished from CBS TV City altogether. I do not like actors coming back as another character, yuck.

Gloria and her whole family need to leave Geona City. I've had enough of them.

Mark... Are you primarily a Gloria fan or JC fan?

I may be busted.

I like Gloria, but I love Judith Chapman.

To the ends of the earth.

I actually think she is among the most beautiful women ever put on the planet.

I love her flair for drama. I'd be happier with her on B&B, as I have said.

I first grew to love her as Charlotte on Ryan's Hope. I didn't see her, really, on ATWT or Days. I didn't like Ginny Blake on GH, but I watched somewhat for her during that era. So, yes, I was never happier that when the -- eccentric -- Joan Van Ark was replaced by this luminous, beautiful woman. And I know she is over 60, but I look at these pictures and I confess my thoughts can even become impure. Not really, though. I admire her as an objet d'art. Not just aesthetically, but also for the drama she brings to everything. She makes me want to watch her, no matter what her characters are doing.

Amelia Heinle could take a lesson.

I would love to see these theater pieces she has been directing...

I think Gloria needs to be killed off and Judith brought as another character after a six-months break.

Well, I'd rather she stay where she is...but if she must...

I think Judith needs to be banished from CBS TV City altogether. I do not like actors coming back as another character, yuck.

... then I must respectfully disagree with Alvin and say she could save B&B. Save it!

Gloria and her whole family need to leave Geona City. I've had enough of them.

Not my Kevin. I am seriously compelled to see how he'll heal from this (if he'll heal). Kevin truly is like the shelter dog. I want him rescued, and then I want to protect him for the rest of his days, so nobody can ever hurt him again. And I love that brother Michael feels the same way I do. Indeed, it is how Michael tries to love and protect Kevin that finally got me to like Michael (rather than just be entertained by Christian).

(I'm speaking about my response to the character as a viewer -- not my mental break from reality ).

Well, I'd rather she stay where she is...but if she must...

But is Gloria redeemable?

But is Gloria redeemable?

Oh yes. In five minutes. Seriously! Five!

I have it all scripted in my head.

Five minutes of SINCERE atonement (which Judith will rock), followed by a life lived authentically in the shadow of her apology.

This does not mean she has to be neutered. She can do all the bad things she wants, as long as they are FOR her SONS/DAUGHTERS-IN-LAW/FRIENDS/GRANDCHILDREN, and she doesn't actively try to HURT anyone (just scam 'em a little).

I suppose, too, after the atonement, she should be less reckless.

THE FIRST STEP is for Jeffrey to disappear. Just disappear. No exit storyline. Gloria says he went to Korea, she'll miss the drama, but she's excited to get on with her life.

I hope Barbara Bloom allows this, because it is essential in the rehabilitation of Gloria.

Judith reminds me of one of those pretentious theatre geeks I know in college. You know, the ones who thought that everything, no matter how stupid it was, had a sense of drama to it? I'm sure she's a nice woman though.

:lol: :lol:

But is Gloria redeemable?

I don't think she is..... chalk another thing up to the destruction that was Lynn Marie Latham.... her forcefeeding of Gloria not taking any responsibility for her actions and basically promoting her character at the expense of the core Abbott family is what did the character in....

MAB should have just left her in prison... I have no idea where the character can go now....

I don't think she is..... chalk another thing up to the destruction that was Lynn Marie Latham.... her forcefeeding of Gloria not taking any responsibility for her actions and basically promoting her character at the expense of the core Abbott family is what did the character in....

I would have never thought the evil Carl Hutchins on AW could some day become its romantic lead.

It can be done.

Yes, LML mishandled it. (Not totally...I remember Jack getting the upper hand at the funeral, at the will reading, clothes in trashbags...).

Perhaps, though, MAB's task is to show us what she's made of, and to spend some time on the redemption arc.

MAB should have just left her in prison... I have no idea where the character can go now....

Truly, tell me ONE THING she has done that CANNOT be repaired with sincere apology and correcting of her ways.

I'm guessing someone is gonna say 'when she threw that steak into the street so that Fisher would get run over'. Yeah, that was bad.

But what if, in a private moment with Fisher, she apologizes? What if she shows Fisher how much she cares for him? What if she gets a dog of her own and treats it like royalty. What if she goes to Noah and sincerely apologizes?

It can be done! It can be done! I challenge the writers to do it! (But I'm afraid they don't care as much about Gloria).

Not my Kevin. I am seriously compelled to see how he'll heal from this (if he'll heal). Kevin truly is like the shelter dog. I want him rescued, and then I want to protect him for the rest of his days, so nobody can ever hurt him again. And I love that brother Michael feels the same way I do. Indeed, it is how Michael tries to love and protect Kevin that finally got me to like Michael (rather than just be entertained by Christian).

(I'm speaking about my response to the character as a viewer -- not my mental break from reality ).

Kevin is the worst. I hate his story and wanted it to end like yesterday. He really isnt needed on the show anymore. He should pack his bags and take his mom and Michael with him. Rikkart is annoying me to end in his story.