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Y&R: Week of March 23, 2009

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LMAO at Adam mistaken a picture of Sabrina for Zapato

Anyone else not digging this Kevin story? Its 1 of the few things Im not liking about this show. How stupid is it that he's been able to do all these robberies in his condition succesfully?

Its time to wrap up the Katherine story. Its starting to grow stale with this whole is she or isnt she Katherine. They are going nowhere fast

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Tracey returned to Y&R in 2000 as a guest and then since 2001 on recurring, not 2002. In 2003 Jack Smith offered Tracey a contract and she turned it down. Tracey can say whatever she likes about working heavy storyline, but MAB does not want to write for someone who has said, as recently as last fall, that she'd be open to leave Y&R and go back to DAYS if the storyline was right.

Also, the Nielsen surveys that ousted LML were also the same surveys that did a number on Christian Le Blanc's status as a lead. Since Tracey is basically tied to Christian's story, she suffers.

I like Tracey Bregman and Lauren...I just don't care to *ever* see Happy Homemaker Lauren, she and Christian Le Blanc have zippo chemistry and are rather nauseating together. There's potential with Lauren, without question, but unless she's willing to sign on that dotted line or Judith Chapman gets fired I think Tracey Bregman is straight outta luck.

Ok, I really intended not to continue this topic, but just because she was offerred a contract in 2003, do you know for a fact that she would be offerred a contract now or that Maria Bell would want her on contract and that is why Maria refuses to write for her? Not an accusation, just asking for info. I know Tracey likes recurring because of time with her kids and while that did not effect her use under Jack Smith or LML greatly, it has been an issue under Maria Bell.

As for Lauren being a happy homemaker, Maria is choosing to keep their marriage that way. She could write conflict for them but chooses not to. Why? Just because Tracey is recurring?

I believe you when you said Christian did not do well in the ratings, but I also remember you explaining that both Greg Rikkhart and Emily O'Brien did not do well either when you were explaining the salary scale which I found suprising and interesting. Have things changed that much for them since Maria is really using them quite a bit?

Finally, I listen to and read most Tracey Bregman interviews, and I never heard her say she would go back to Days. Where did you hear or read this? I have heard her say she was loyal to Y & R and they knew that and loved working with her costars although would like Lauren to get some of her edge back. In fact, Tracey has always been positive in the interviews I read.

I found out she wanted to work more because I met her in person and asked her some qestions directly. She was very complimentary of her co stars but expressed a bit of disappointment of how she was being used, but was also grateful she was working. I just can't see why Tracey would be interested in going back to Days when she was on for a few years when she was a teen considering the problems at Days and the way they have devalued their veterans. Again not to be rude, but I just find that a strange comment.

LMAO at Adam mistaken a picture of Sabrina for Zapato

Anyone else not digging this Kevin story? Its 1 of the few things Im not liking about this show. How stupid is it that he's been able to do all these robberies in his condition succesfully?

Its time to wrap up the Katherine story. Its starting to grow stale with this whole is she or isnt she Katherine. They are going nowhere fast

I don't want to give anything away, but I think they will be rapping the Katherine story in the next week or so.

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LMAO at Adam mistaken a picture of Sabrina for Zapato

Anyone else not digging this Kevin story? Its 1 of the few things Im not liking about this show. How stupid is it that he's been able to do all these robberies in his condition succesfully?

Its time to wrap up the Katherine story. Its starting to grow stale with this whole is she or isnt she Katherine. They are going nowhere fast

Sabrina...Zapato...Zapato...Sabrina...both of 'em are dogs....ahwooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

I am NOT digging the Kevin storyline at all. I find it really tedious. It doesn't help that I'm just sick of the Baldwin/Fisher clan in their entirety. Bless Greg Rikaart but I find Kevin's freakouts hilariously awful. And yes, the robberies are very unrealistic. Nothing Baldwin/Fisher will ever impress me.

The Katherine story is about to take a very BIG

turn as Mac arrives to Billy and Chloe's wedding, proves Kay is Kay and then sets the stage for Billy/Mac/Chloe and Jill vs Kay's war!

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Ok, I really intended not to continue this topic, but just because she was offerred a contract in 2003, do you know for a fact that she would be offerred a contract now or that Maria Bell would want her on contract and that is why Maria refuses to write for her? Not an accusation, just asking for info. I know Tracey likes recurring because of time with her kids and while that did not effect her use under Jack Smith or LML greatly, it has been an issue under Maria Bell.

As for Lauren being a happy homemaker, Maria is choosing to keep their marriage that way. She could write conflict for them but chooses not to. Why? Just because Tracey is recurring?

I believe you when you said Christian did not do well in the ratings, but I also remember you explaining that both Greg Rikkhart and Emily O'Brien did not do well either when you were explaining the salary scale which I found suprising and interesting. Have things changed that much for them since Maria is really using them quite a bit?

Finally, I listen to and read most Tracey Bregman interviews, and I never heard her say she would go back to Days. Where did you hear or read this? I have heard her say she was loyal to the show and they knew that and loved working with her costars although would like Lauren to get some of her edge back. I just can't see why Tracey would be interested in going back to a show she was on for a few years when she was a teen considering the problems at Days and the way they have devalued their veterans. Again not to be rude, but I just find that illogical.

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I have no idea if MAB is interested in putting her on contract now. My gut says YES because of the Lauren/Tracey scenes which show that MAB 'gets' Lauren.

If MAB wants to help Tracey she'd implode the Michael and Lauren marriage. It's terrible. They are chemistry free and it's that coupling which has crushed Lauren Fenmore. I think MAB wants a stable couple. Stable means happy. Happy means boring.

Emily O'Brien and Greg Rikaart are young. Neither one of them scored particularly well in the Nielsen surveys which is why they aren't as valued as other actors from a financial perspective. However, MAB likes Greg Rikaart, a lot. Sony is fine with them being front burner for the time being because Adrienne Frantz and Michael Graziedi both score amazingly well, so it's a storyline that involves all of them and they're all young. It's a Frons style move (the non vet ABC soap actors score HORRIBLY in focus groups, but Frons keeps them front and center because they're young).

Tracey was either speaking to Branco or Logan (it was a TV Guide piece or I might be totally confused and it was a SoapTownUSA piece, but I think TV Guide) when she was asked if she'd consider returning to DAYS and she said she would absolutely consider it if she liked the story.

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Happy to comply.

I have no idea if MAB is interested in putting her on contract now. My gut says YES because of the Lauren/Tracey scenes which show that MAB 'gets' Lauren.

If MAB wants to help Tracey she'd implode the Michael and Lauren marriage. It's terrible. They are chemistry free and it's that coupling which has crushed Lauren Fenmore. I think MAB wants a stable couple. Stable means happy. Happy means boring.

Emily O'Brien and Greg Rikaart are young. Neither one of them scored particularly well in the Nielsen surveys which is why they aren't as valued as other actors from a financial perspective. However, MAB likes Greg Rikaart, a lot. Sony is fine with them being front burner for the time being because Adrienne Frantz and Michael Graziedi both score amazingly well, so it's a storyline that involves all of them and they're all young. It's a Frons style move (the non vet ABC soap actors score HORRIBLY in focus groups, but Frons keeps them front and center because they're young).

Tracey was either speaking to Branco or Logan (it was a TV Guide piece or I might be totally confused and it was a SoapTownUSA piece, but I think TV Guide) when she was asked if she'd consider returning to DAYS and she said she would absolutely consider it if she liked the story.

Thanks for the info and I respect that you don't like the Fisher Baldwins and don't see any chemistry between Tracey and Christian. I used to be a huge Nikki and Victor fan and Newman all the way, but after Heather Thom left, the ruination of Victor and Nikki, Nick's affair and Cassie dying it was Michael and Lauren and the Baldwin-Fishers who brought me back as a daily fan.

They are my favorite family, although I believe Gloria has really hurt Michael, Lauren and Kevin and feel if she was off the show they would get more story. Kevin and Jana are doing well now, but Michael and Lauren would hopefully get better story. Maybe they wouldn't if Maria does not care to write for them. Who knows really what she is thinking. I will just have to see how it plays out.

I don't have issue with Michael and Lauren having conflict and they need it, but I also love them as a couple. That's just how I feel about them while other couples fans like I could take or leave. Although I do love Kay's storyline and Katherine and Murphy.

I would love for Lauren to mix it up with other characters and get a business story, but I think her fate is tied to Michael.

Thanks again for the info, and I will get off this topic.

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Sabrina...Zapato...Zapato...Sabrina...both of 'em are dogs....ahwooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

I am NOT digging the Kevin storyline at all. I find it really tedious. It doesn't help that I'm just sick of the Baldwin/Fisher clan in their entirety. Bless Greg Rikaart but I find Kevin's freakouts hilariously awful. And yes, the robberies are very unrealistic. Nothing Baldwin/Fisher will ever impress me.

The Katherine story is about to take a very BIG

turn as Mac arrives to Billy and Chloe's wedding, proves Kay is Kay and then sets the stage for Billy/Mac/Chloe and Jill vs Kay's war!

LOL about Sabrian and Zapato!!

I feel the same way about the Kevin storyline. And yes Greg is awful....LOL. I use to like the Baldwin/Fishers but not anymore. I think it has to do with the Gloria character. The brothers were better when they were alone and not with Mommy Dearest with them.

Thank you for the spoiler. I cant wait for the fireworks!!

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Sabrina...Zapato...Zapato...Sabrina...both of 'em are dogs....ahwooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

:lol: It seems I'm in tune with a lot of people today... when Adam said he thought it was Zapato, I thought: "That makes sense. Zapato=Dog. Sabrina=Bitch. There you have it!" :lol:

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Maybe Lauren or Micheal could happen by Billy or Sharon and then they could become the new cheating couple in this show of multiple cheating couples. I do wish they would come up with some creative conflicts for the couples on this show. Maybe Lauren could be experiencing financial difficulties in her store due to the recession and become totally irritable, moody and bitchy and Micheal not knowing how to deal with a non-stepford wife wouldn't know how to deal.

I am mixed on the Kevin storyline, some things are good, but it is going on and on...

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:lol: It seems I'm in tune with a lot of people today... when Adam said he thought it was Zapato, I thought: "That makes sense. Zapato=Dog. Sabrina=Bitch. There you have it!" :lol:

A bitch would imply Sabrina was a female. ;)

I'm sorry, the actress looked completely masculine...

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The Katherine story is about to take a very BIG

turn as Mac arrives to Billy and Chloe's wedding, proves Kay is Kay and then sets the stage for Billy/Mac/Chloe and Jill vs Kay's war!

All of this is happening next week, btw. Should be a good week.

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I still can't put my finger on whether Adam's blindess is genuine or a ploy to get out of prison. On one hand, we have the conversation with Frank Ellis, but Adam's self-pity about his condition does feel genuine. Of course, that could just be Chris Engen.

I almost can't believe Adam would risk damage to his eyesight just to get out of prison, but this IS the same guy who, along with Auntie Jack, engineered one of the stupidest and most easily revealable revenge schemes I've ever seen on a soap.

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By the way, when Nikki told Victor that Nick and Victoria grew up to be good people in spite of him, I went into convulsive fits of laughter.

But how dare she condemn Adam. This is precisely the kind of crap that drove Adam to fall from grace. His on-again-off-again step-mom hates him and his half-brother and sister treated him like [!@#$%^&*].

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DaytimeFan, where do you find information about the Nelson survey scores? Are they posted somewhere?

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A bitch would imply Sabrina was a female. ;)

I'm sorry, the actress looked completely masculine...

LOL!

Victor is such a sanctimonious jackass, he could let up on Adam a bit since he is going blind supposedly. Then he goes and spews more of his venom towards Nikki, I'm glad she gave it back to him. When she got with Bow Wow Chow she had no idea that he'd ever turn out to be a serial killer/hit man.

I am so tired of GloHo, and I pray to the Y&R Gods that they send Joria into the sunset maybe on a REALLY LONG around the world cruise.

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