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So what does someone like Kelly do who is now in charge of Homeland Security. Does he obey the Commander in Chief and defy a court order or comply with it or resign.

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Yep.

 

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If it's true that Reince was on the verge of quitting before Paul Ryan talked him down, then he's probably rethinking his rethink right about now.

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I think Priebus, like Ryan, lives in a cossetted bubble where if they just get their brilliant ideas in action everything else will fall into place. They don't want to dirty their beautiful minds with the everyday realities beyond gifted child theory, so Priebus is completely flummoxed by what's happening here.

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47 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

 

True, although people said that about the Arab Spring as well.

 

I hope people are protesting outside Paul Ryan's office. He should be ashamed, especially as he loves to speak as the moral voice of America when it suits him.

I think we are very lucky that Trump and Bannon haven't gotten their dirty mitts on the courts yet, but that's coming. 

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Just now, Juliajms said:

I think we are very lucky that Trump and Bannon haven't gotten their dirty mitts on the courts yet, but that's coming. 

 

You'd think today - this whole past week - would make Republicans in the Senate rethink whether to approve his nominees, but we know that won't happen. 

 

McConnell is a smart man (if a nasty one), so I do wonder what he will be doing.

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Grain of salt time, but not the first I've heard of it:

 

 

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Just now, DRW50 said:

 

You'd think today - this whole past week - would make Republicans in the Senate rethink whether to approve his nominees, but we know that won't happen. 

 

McConnell is a smart man (if a nasty one), so I do wonder what he will be doing.

Well, I think come Monday we'll really see what some of these Republicans are made of. I honestly believe some of them are decent people who will do the right thing (as some are already standing up for refugees tonight), but we are also going to see who stands by this shameful EO.  I think there is no question that battle lines are being drawn here.

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I think most of them today have no spine. Even John McCain couldn't find his. A few have come out against it in the last few hours - Susan Collins, Sasse, etc.

 

Sadly, the most principled Republican on the scene at the moment is none other than dark horse '16 candidate Evan McMullin, who is admirably very vocal on Twitter and has, I think, been out among the protestors today trying to help.

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8 minutes ago, Vee said:

I think most of them today have no spine. Even John McCain couldn't find his. A few have come out against it in the last few hours - Susan Collins, Sasse, etc.

 

Sadly, the most principled Republican on the scene at the moment is none other than dark horse '16 candidate Evan McMullin, who is admirably very vocal on Twitter and has, I think, been out among the protestors today trying to help.

 

I saw a tweet that said only about 4 or 5 have said anything. Most of them I'm not surprised by (Justin Amash, Jeff Flake, Ben Sasse, et al.) Sasse will likely be a one-term wonder as I've read that the Nebraska GOP hates his opposition to Trump. None of these people seem to have any particular power either, but I guess at least they said something. What a fraud St. John yet again proves himself to be. Barry Goldwater rolling over in his grave would have more political impact at this point. 

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I was a little surprised by Sasse.  I've never had much use for him. Obviously he comes from deep pockets, so I'd never count him out. Deb Fischer tends to flirt with opposing Trump, but then backs down. I'll be interested to see if she wimps out this time too.

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4 hours ago, DRW50 said:

 

I think people can carry on like this for a while, but I worry about when the crackdowns start - against the press, and with authorities against protesters. I think the only reason it hasn't started in more earnest as of yet is because Trump and Bannon are so disoraganized and abrasive. That's one of the reasons I'm so wary of Pence, because I think he would be able to do these types of things more efficiently. 

 

The crackdowns are coming. I've seen people liken this to the civil rights movement but it looks to me more like the anti-Vietnam movement. It's just a matter of time before we have another Kent State on our hands. It will be interesting to see what happens once young white people start dying.

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7am Central and the Orange Piss-n-Chief has already tweeted about the NYT AGAIN and Fake news. and where are my republican friends who would be defending all this? come out come out wherever you are.....

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