I feel the same way about "The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon" and "Saturday Night Live."  When both shows went out of their way to normalize that monster, I was done.

 

Same goes for "Today."  Matt Lauer should have followed Billy Bush out the door, IMO.

 

Honestly, were ANY network or cable shows left unscathed from Trump?

Edited January 25, 20178 yr by Khan

Demoralized Trumpists, Secret Service cracking Trump jokes. Sparse crowds. An eye witness account of the inaugural. https://t.co/5CzYnrxQa9

— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) January 25, 2017

28 minutes ago, Khan said:

I feel the same way about "The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon" and "Saturday Night Live."  When both shows went out of their way to normalize that monster, I was done.

 

Same goes for "Today."  Matt Lauer should have followed Billy Bush out the door, IMO.

 

Honestly, were ANY network or cable shows left unscathed from Trump?

 

PBS (especially Frontline and The Newshour, well except for David Brooks but he's only one once a week, at most) is probably the only one I bother with but Trump will probably cut their funding.

Edited January 25, 20178 yr by DramatistDreamer

1 hour ago, Khan said:

Honestly, were ANY network or cable shows left unscathed from Trump?

 

I think The View & Bill Maher were one of the small few that called Trump the carpet and still do, so in my eyes, they are unscathed as they didn't (and don't) try and normalize him. 

Here's comes the wall and mass banning of refugees and immigrants.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/24/politics/donald-trump-immigration-refugees/

3 hours ago, Nothin'ButAttitude said:

 

I think The View & Bill Maher were one of the small few that called Trump the carpet and still do, so in my eyes, they are unscathed as they didn't (and don't) try and normalize him. 

From Day One of his announcement to run, Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg  have and still continue to call Trump, Kellyanne and anyone  else that speak in "Alternative Facts" out on a daily basis. A year ago I wouldn't have believed that they would be (along with Maher) two of the only  news shows on television not tainted. Barbara Walters should be proud of their accomplishment.

1 hour ago, slick jones said:

From Day One of his announcement to run, Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg  have and still continue to call Trump, Kellyanne and anyone  else that speak in "Alternative Facts" out on a daily basis. A year ago I wouldn't have believed that they would be (along with Maher) two of the only  news shows on television not tainted. Barbara Walters should be proud of their accomplishment.

 

Sadly they tainted themselves years ago, long before there was a Trump candidacy. 

Shooter sent Facebook message to Breitbart’s Milo Yiannopoulos before gunfire at UW protest, police say

 

 

Police confirm "alt-right" shot anti-fascist in Seattle. And liberals are whining about a neo-nazi getting punched. https://t.co/yXODmIsrWS

— Will Potter (@will_potter) January 24, 2017

Here is that interview with the CEO of FedEx, Fred Smith that I mentioned yesterday. If the U.S. is now into listening to CEOs in regards to running the government, at least listen to the rational, intelligent ones.

 

FedEx CEO urges Trump to rethink trade policies

 

1 hour ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Shooter sent Facebook message to Breitbart’s Milo Yiannopoulos before gunfire at UW protest, police say

 

 

Not a big fan of the false equivalence at the top. I have zero pity for Richard Spencer getting punched, but it's never a good idea to start handwaving assault because something worse is happening elsewhere. 

 

Breaking "news" - Trump is calling for a full investigation into voter fraud.  

 

 

Just now, GMac said:

 

Breaking "news" - Trump is calling for a full investigation into voter fraud.  

 

And they'll find some too, likely fabricated, but enough to get the cheap seats nodding along. If they work hard enough to drop in buzzwords like "New Black Panthers" the media will drop their pants right then and there.

10 hours ago, Wales2004 said:

I find it troubling that these people want to narrow Christianity down to stopping abortions.  I want to know what special version of the Bible they read that tells them that Christians ought to be knee-deep in politics.  And I don't get why abortions are more important to them than helping the poor. 

 

I can never see myself having an abortion but it's not my place to try to tell another woman what she should do.  It's an extremely personal decision and I have only had one woman tell me that she had an abortion and did not struggle with it.  She accepted what she felt she needed to do.  Some of the others look back and mainly wish they didn't have to but probably would have made the same decision under the circumstances.  I'm not for the idea of letting some girl die having a botched abortion just because some tax dollars would go to her having the procedure done more safely.  I don't suppose they worry about their tax dollars going towards funding weapons and other arms that end up killing innocent children in the crossfire of wars meant to keep these conscientious taxpayers safe.

 

From my personal experience (my brother and his wife are devoted Republicans and evangelicals as well as my hubby's formerly close nephew and his wife), abortion appears to be their top reason for going to the polls - that and marriage equality.  There's never any talk from them about how they reconcile their religious beliefs and voting for someone like Trump, other than to post on FB that they've voted "prayerfully", whatever the fuc.k that means.  Honestly, it boils my blood to hear that this god they worship would tell them somehow that Trump is the way to go over Clinton.  What kind of all-knowing, peaceful god would come to that conclusion given these two candidates?!?  But I digress.

 

You make complete sense when it comes to abortion.  

 

If the church is going to continue to push it's congregations to the polls and advocating for one party over the other - it's time to tax them.  

 

9 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

 

And they'll find some too, likely fabricated, but enough to get the cheap seats nodding along. If they work hard enough to drop in buzzwords like "New Black Panthers" the media will drop their pants right then and there.

 

OMG I can actually see this happening.  We're screwed.

 

12 minutes ago, GMac said:

 

From my personal experience (my brother and his wife are devoted Republicans and evangelicals as well as my hubby's formerly close nephew and his wife), abortion appears to be their top reason for going to the polls - that and marriage equality.  There's never any talk from them about how they reconcile their religious beliefs and voting for someone like Trump, other than to post on FB that they've voted "prayerfully", whatever the fuc.k that means.  Honestly, it boils my blood to hear that this god they worship would tell them somehow that Trump is the way to go over Clinton.  What kind of all-knowing, peaceful god would come to that conclusion given these two candidates?!?  But I digress.

 

I'm not religious by any stretch but I've been enjoying the writing of John Pavlovitz. He's an Evangelical pastor who has put his fellow Evangelicals on blast for exactly the hypocrisy you describe.

 

http://johnpavlovitz.com/

Thanks, @marceline I will definitely give him a look :-)

 

 

1 hour ago, DRW50 said:

 

Not a big fan of the false equivalence at the top. I have zero pity for Richard Spencer getting punched, but it's never a good idea to start handwaving assault because something worse is happening elsewhere. 

 

Yeah, I considered not posting it but did so because I thought it was important to document this incident for those who troll the board and think that these alt-right neo Nazis are just harmless folk with 'not mainstream' believes just exercising their right to free speech. They are not and I wanted to show an incident where this was the case.

 

Also, it is the opinion of the victim to see it the way they want to see it. I do not agree. I feel absolutely no sympathy for Richard Spencer and those of their ilk. People are free to speak their minds, even express views that are reprehensible by most people with a sense of humanity- but they also must face the fact that there are often consequences and that one of them is being challenged by people who vehemently disagree and a few times there may be the odd confrontation. I'm not going to waste time trying to understand a mindset that I consider beyond the pale.

 

Thankfully most people on this board (except for a few trolls) are discerning enough to parse through the opinions, however warped they may be, at times and dig through to find the cogent facts that are actually pertinent to our discussions of today's events. 

Edited January 25, 20178 yr by DramatistDreamer