No questions about emails other than a follow-up by Holt to Trump's nonsense about releasing his taxes if HRC releases her 33,000 deleted mails. She finally answered it in a few words that sounded fine and moved on. I am glad her team finally knows how to handle it.

 

It's clear Trump thought he was going to be able to get away with how he ran over everyone in the GOP debates. I thought Holt did a decent job and while he didn't fact check he did probe further with Trump when he didn't answer the question or babbled on. I thought the Birther stuff really caught him and I would have thought his campaign would have worked on a better response for him than the babbling he did. The deflection to HRC didn't even work IMO because I doubt 99 percent of the people watching knows who Sydney Blumenthal is.

he did fact check Trump on stop & frisk and Trump said Holt was wrong, which he wasn't. 

Trump telling AP he had a defective mic and is wondering if it was on purpose. 

Lord Have Mercy. so a defective mic caused him to act like a lunatic? 

I have to laugh. All the complaints about HRC's coughing, and I didn't see her take one sip of water while Trump was gushing water down by the glassful

I was worried about her coughing because I know the media would run with it if that happened. Meanwhile, I have a cold and while I was posting on the other site found myself coughing repeatedly... Was thinking, "Glad I'm not debating." I was coughing a lot at work today too; kids were actually concerned (or maybe they just wanted me to take a sick day, so they could get a sub - ha!). 

I don't think she coughed once or took a sip of water. meanwhile, Trump should have just took the entire pitcher and just glugged the whole thing. he was all over the place. all the fidgeting and jerking back and forth and the faces.....the world watched him tonight. 

I came across a funny tweet about the water: Trump is widening his lead in the water drinking contest. 

 

So I was just looking at the Variety article about the debate and asking readers who won...and the comments terrify me. Lots of pro-Trump there. I think, no matter how badly Trump did, there is a contingent that just will not budge, either because of e-mails or Benghazi or, and this one pisses me off, because she's a woman.

 

I just pray that Trump will lose and go crawl under a rock.

Edited September 27, 20169 yr by Wendy

The comment sections on a lot of sites are scary.

 

Per reporter/journalist (an hour ago): Trump now says, in spin room, he didn't say that he was smart not to pay federal taxes--which 100 million people just saw him say.

I don't gush over Donald Trump, I just don't subscribe to the theory that because I am a democrat I must believe the republican candidate can do no right, while the democratic candidate can do no wrong.

 

Trump lost fair and square and largely due to his own ego.  If one were to watch the debate with no sound on and just the split screen he probably would like like a complete nut with the face and the fidgeting.   He could not get out of his way with the interrupting, and of course that is what she was hoping for.   In contrast she was her usual good debating self and just stayed on her even keep--which probably annoyed him even more.   She got him to basically admit he doesn't pay taxes, to admit that he had racist rental policies in Brooklyn in the 70s, and to fall into the whole birther trap.    Trump started out the first fifteen minutes stronger and not looking deranged, but he can't help himself.    The issue now will be is if winning a debate on points and not a knockout will be enough to for Hillary to bring the strays home who don't want to vote for her.

The comment sections on a lot of sites are scary.

 

Per reporter/journalist (an hour ago): Trump now says, in spin room, he didn't say that he was smart not to pay federal taxes--which 100 million people just saw him say.

I guess we dreamed it all

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCEjeTb1rrs

Edited September 27, 20169 yr by Soapsuds

They're showing the highlights here on our news stations and holy !@#$%^&*], this is a train wreck on Trump's part. Like Vee said, the sweating, snarling, and fidgeting are horrendous while Hillary looks calm and collected beside him. The split screen is killer. No way can anyone say he won this.

 

How much longer till the actual election? I have to imagine (or maybe Im being naive since I dont really understand the American election cycle) that this has basically locked up her victory no?

well, we still have two more debates. the next one is a town hall I believe. he just....that was the worst debate performance I've seen. Is saturday night live premiering this week? because if they are...they are going to be BRUTAL towards Trump. 

 

Lorne has a soft spot for him, or NBC does, or both, as they let him host even after his worst. Darrell Hammond has also spoken somewhat positively toward Trump. The sketch they did with Palin (who has fucked off this year - I wonder if someone in Trump's entourage told her to go away or else) and Trump had her as the crackpot and him as the wise sage putting up with her antics. 

 

I don't gush over Donald Trump, I just don't subscribe to the theory that because I am a democrat I must believe the republican candidate can do no right, while the democratic candidate can do no wrong.

 

Trump lost fair and square and largely due to his own ego.  If one were to watch the debate with no sound on and just the split screen he probably would like like a complete nut with the face and the fidgeting.   He could not get out of his way with the interrupting, and of course that is what she was hoping for.   In contrast she was her usual good debating self and just stayed on her even keep--which probably annoyed him even more.   She got him to basically admit he doesn't pay taxes, to admit that he had racist rental policies in Brooklyn in the 70s, and to fall into the whole birther trap.    Trump started out the first fifteen minutes stronger and not looking deranged, but he can't help himself.    The issue now will be is if winning a debate on points and not a knockout will be enough to for Hillary to bring the strays home who don't want to vote for her.

 

We don't agree on some things but I tend to agree with your view of why Trump is popular. And I tend to think you will be right here. I don't think it will make any real difference in his support. 

Edited September 27, 20169 yr by DRW50

Watch the debate, then decide.

 

Hardball on MSNBC is going through this debate line by line. God, her strategy was a work of art.

Edited September 27, 20169 yr by Vee

Carl I don't see anyone in the media awarding him anything. Maybe Fox. But this was a disaster.

 

What impressed me the most. Obviously HRC is knowledgable. But on the stage she stood equally. The visual side by side really worked to her advantage. He actually kind of looked unbalanced next to her.

Then don't watch CNN. Jeffrey Lord and the blond woman both said he did FANTASTIC tonight. 

Can't stand either one but Kayleigh McEnany is just downright awful. Donald could fart in her face and she'd say it smells good!

DAmn. LMAO!!!!

Donald looked like he was on crack or losing his mind. 

 

Ive legit never been more proud of Hillary Clinton than I am tonight. That was just a masterpiece performance for the ages. There were very small hiccups (2-4 at most) but compared to Donald it was non existant. Her performance at the last Benghazi hearing was almost as good as her debate performance tonight. 

 

Just donated $20 to her campaign and I'm praying this moves the needle in her direction once again. All these Gary Johnson fools have to see what a danger he is. This is just not the time or year to flirt with third party and send this country into chaos.

 

Woah Chuck Todd is a hack? In what universe? Andrea Mitchell on the other hand def is just a product of DC hobknobbing and yes only has her job cuz of her husband. But let's not throw Chucky T into the usual lame stream media. 

CT is a hack. That's my opinion. you don't like it? tough. I'm not changing it. K? K. 

youre entitled to have whatever delusional opinion you want. I'm just laughing wondering who you consider credible in the world of journalism such that it is these days. It's widely acknowledged that he's one of the few remaining folks who tries to call it fair for both sides 

Chuck Todd is the belt buckle of the Beltway, with a hipster goatee to try to seem different. 

 

I was trying to read the debate recap at The Fix and had to stop for a while when the guy doing it said Hillary was doing a less annoying version of the "Al Gore sigh." They really are trying to push that narrative against her. We'll see if they manage it over the next few days. 

I just watched Seth Meyer's, A Closer Look. There weren't a lot of Hillary clips (the focus was on Trump and his stupidity), but Hillary's face as Trump was saying "Call Sean Hannity" was hilarious... She just had this smile like, "Seriously?"

 

Trump saying he did great in the polls except CNN which he doesn't watch (yet he was citing it as evidence tonight on birtherism). 

 

Trump also says no questions tonight about emails, corrupt Clinton foundation or Benghazi.

Way too many likes on his Tweets... hopefully a bunch of bots. Though either way, it's silly for me to base popularity on social media response. 

Edited September 27, 20169 yr by Ms. Quartermaine

I was trying to read the debate recap at The Fix and had to stop for a while when the guy doing it said Hillary was doing a less annoying version of the "Al Gore sigh." They really are trying to push that narrative against her. We'll see if they manage it over the next few days. 

 

They're not. Trust me. 90% of the media are calling it what it was: A devastating victory for Clinton.

 

Watch the debate. Please.

Edited September 27, 20169 yr by Vee

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/clinton-trump-debate-takeaways-228758

I wonder if it's fair to talk about her supposed policies as first lady. I mean the health care plan, fine, because she was in charge of that, but prior to 2001, anything he claims is more about Bill than her, isn't it? And how is he going to go back 30 years when the first Bush was still in office?

 
GOP strategist Nicolle Wallace: I think that we held @HillaryClinton to very high standards, and she exceeded them

 

Edit: I just did a search of NAFTA. 5 ridiculous news articles showing up, and only one from Breitbart, how Trump hits Hillary with NAFTA and how debate blows up with NAFTA. WTH?! 

Edited September 27, 20169 yr by Ms. Quartermaine

Clinton's 35-point win in the CNN post-debate poll is the 3rd largest margin ever, after Romney-Obama I and Clinton-Bush 92 townhall.

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538)

September 27, 2016