Members DramatistDreamer Posted July 27, 2022 Members Share Posted July 27, 2022 Wow, another interest rate hike? I know two people who have been looking for a house for well over a year. This will undoubtedly make things worse for them in terms of mortgage rates. First, it was people moving from NYC and snatching up houses with big $$$$, the part of the tri-state area where I live has been the slowest to recover/build up housing stock. At least there’s this, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members DramatistDreamer Posted July 27, 2022 Members Share Posted July 27, 2022 This looks promising but I remain cautiously optimistic until this agreement is signed, sealed and delivered. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JaneAusten Posted July 27, 2022 Members Share Posted July 27, 2022 I hesitate to trust Joe Manchin on one *amn thing, but this sounds promising. McConnell threatened to not pass the CHIPS bill if the dems passed their reconciliation package. I think Manchin FAKE tanked it 2 weeks ago. Today they passed the CHIPS act then Schumer announced they had a deal on reconciliation. They allegedly have 50 votes. If so, they out maneuvered McConnell. We'll see. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DramatistDreamer Posted July 27, 2022 Members Share Posted July 27, 2022 Wow, if this comes to pass, this would truly be great. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted July 28, 2022 Members Share Posted July 28, 2022 I'll be damned. But I'll believe it when it's signed. The more sensible progressives don't appear to be balking at it either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted July 28, 2022 Members Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) The rumor is Manchin reversed course when Mitch threatened to kill the CHIPS Bill if they did reconciliation. Manchin does not take kindly to threats (or being blamed for anything) which is why he nuked BBB last year. (OTOH, there's also a chance Schumer gamed this out weeks ago.) Edited July 28, 2022 by Vee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted July 28, 2022 Members Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) I don't believe it was all theater a few weeks ago, but I do suspect there was some strategy involved at least recently and it's impressive. Hopefully this will get wind in the sails of some truly dejected people both in government and out here among us, myself included. This is the kind of work the majority should've been doing all along, so I'm not going to quibble about Manchin calling it the 'Inflation Reduction Act' or only going for it out of pique, if true. Edited July 28, 2022 by Vee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted July 28, 2022 Members Share Posted July 28, 2022 I'm glad that these things are passing, but so many have been demoralized for many months now, it may just be too late to get those people back. I saw that Bernie was upset, which means his remaining cultists will be too, although I don't think he has the same influence he had a few years ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted July 28, 2022 Members Share Posted July 28, 2022 Most of the progressive caucus is behind this bill atm, so I'm not worried about that. I doubt Gottheimer has the stones to blow this up, and I have a hard time believing Sinema will. But we can believe it when it's signed. I'm mostly very curious how all this happened at all. I do agree it's late in the game, but it will be a good example of a Dem majority actually doing what it's supposed to and that will be something to put some juice behind. In many ways the "Inflation Reduction Act" appears to be largely BBB with a more Manchin-friendly name that appeals to his ego and sensibilities. Meanwhile: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DramatistDreamer Posted July 28, 2022 Members Share Posted July 28, 2022 Andrew Yang and Christine Todd Whitman launching a political party. Barf. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted July 28, 2022 Members Share Posted July 28, 2022 Good luck with that! Meanwhile, Manchin's favorite subject is back: Himself. The report allows Manchin to cast himself in the best, most martyred and noble light possible, which is always what he wants. But as long as the bill passes, I don't care: And, like sands through the hourglass.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted July 28, 2022 Members Share Posted July 28, 2022 Manchin vamps for Punchbowl, at the beginning of what I can only pray is the final Manchinology Morning of my natural life: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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