Members Vee Posted September 15, 2024 Members Share Posted September 15, 2024 (edited) But viewers are getting to know her, and she's opened up leads as a result of that as well as the debate. All of her polling on trust, personality, security, etc. have gone up over the last month and particularly in the last week. This is verifiable. And he hasn't crowded her out of the conversation. And this latest attempt is going to do even less for him than the first one did. Meanwhile, Laura Loomer and his Springfield smears aren't effective outside of his base - they've done nothing but turn more people outside of his shrinking base off. So why believe weak spin that everything he does is a success before it even happens, when it's proven to fail over and over? When was the last time Donald Trump won an election cycle, for himself or his party in a general or a midterm? Eight years ago. Edited September 15, 2024 by Vee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wendy Posted September 15, 2024 Members Share Posted September 15, 2024 I don't care what the FBI claims. With Loomer and the hate in Ohio and such? I would not be surprised if this latest "attempt" was staged. I'm not convinced the FIRST one wasn't. Because the timing is awfully convenient. Yes, I know conspiracy theories make everyone sound looney, myself included. But, again, with the kind of person Trump is, and those in with him? I put nothing past any of them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted September 15, 2024 Members Share Posted September 15, 2024 (edited) Real or staged, it's gonna have even less impact than the first one which blew away in a week and moved no voters - which I don't think any of us would've believed would happen the first time. He's just that unpopular. That's the surreal universe we live in (and the kind of pariah Trump is to anyone outside his 38% core base) where not one but two assassination attempts on a central presidential candidate and ex-president do nothing to his polls. This guy apparently was trying to push a unity ticket of (wait for it) Nikki Haley/Tulsi and Vivek Ramaswamy. He's just a weird crank. Edited September 15, 2024 by Vee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members j swift Posted September 15, 2024 Members Share Posted September 15, 2024 (edited) Here's my dream JD Vance interview question: Your most recent rhetoric focuses on Haitian immigrants who have been granted humanitarian visas based on the natural disasters in their country. They now make up a workforce of 15,000 manufacturing jobs in Springfield. So, under a Trump government could we expect that on day one, your administration would require a local police force (who does not support claims of animal mistreatment) to round up these workers and deport them back to Haiti, effectively closing the Ohio businesses that employ them? How would that affect the economy of Springfield? I mean, maybe it would save some geese, but at what cost to the state's economic growth? Edited September 16, 2024 by j swift 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members janea4old Posted September 16, 2024 Members Share Posted September 16, 2024 I thought Trump throwing paper towels was the hurricane in Puerto Rico, not the earthquake in Haiti. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members j swift Posted September 16, 2024 Members Share Posted September 16, 2024 (edited) You're probably correct, but Haitian immigrants began arriving in 2017 Please register in order to view this content https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/14/neo-nazis-springfield-ohio-haitian-immigrants Edited September 16, 2024 by j swift 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members janea4old Posted September 16, 2024 Members Share Posted September 16, 2024 Yes. They arrived years ago. Just saying the paper towel thing is unrelated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DramatistDreamer Posted September 16, 2024 Members Share Posted September 16, 2024 Who said he was brilliant?! I never said that. And of course, I recognize that the attention span of the public is shorter than a fruit fly and will go to something else but even when you go to the well more than once, successful or not, it begins to look like a strategy, failure or not. His entire presidential campaign is basically about avoiding prison. That’s a strategy. In other news, https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-loses-electric-avenue-copyright-lawsuit-2024-9 Please register in order to view this content 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Taoboi Posted September 16, 2024 Members Share Posted September 16, 2024 Lord...ANOTHER attempt? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted September 16, 2024 Members Share Posted September 16, 2024 (edited) I'm speaking more to the tiresome, ancient sentiment on social media that everything Trump does is 4-D chess and will always succeed. It doesn't succeed, it hasn't been succeeding for some years now electorally. Marc Caputo, who is a slimeball, is out there laundering the Trump campaign line that cat-eating in Ohio is a great win for them because these smears vaguely go back to immigration. But that's just a line. It's cope from a campaign staff deep in the grips of delusion. "They're eating the cats" has done nothing to grow their base or cut into Harris. So what's left? 38% (and slowly fading) of whackjobs. Edited September 16, 2024 by Vee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DramatistDreamer Posted September 16, 2024 Members Share Posted September 16, 2024 Oh. Well, I haven’t subscribed to cable in well over a decade and I guess it shows lol. The very sad fact of the matter is that there is a long running history of disparaging the Haitian people in the U.S. (see the AIDS crisis of the 1980s). This is the latest example of a shameless attempt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members DramatistDreamer Posted September 16, 2024 Members Share Posted September 16, 2024 More disruptions to everyday life in Springfield OH because of this abhorrent lie. Springfield, Ohio, cancels town festival after violent threats over Haitian residents 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members janea4old Posted September 17, 2024 Members Share Posted September 17, 2024 (edited) The Guardian has been referring to yesterday's incident where Trump was golfing as an ‘assassination attempt’ -- in quotes. It seems deliberate as if they are implying that it's "so-called" or "unproven". Edited September 17, 2024 by janea4old 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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