24 minutes ago, Roman said:

Well, I now know why the Russians call Trump Golden Boy. 

 

I think i posted about it here, but I can speak/understand Russian so I watched some footage of the news on their state news network and it was insane. They were calling him not just Golden Boy but "our darling Trump", "our marvelous Trump", and "our wonderful Trump". They also discussed about how Trump has a "weakness for blondes" and will do away with "irritating things" like democracy and will promote Russia to all of America. 

Edited January 11, 20179 yr by AdelaideCate007

1 minute ago, AdelaideCate007 said:

 

I think i posted about it here, but I can speak/understand Russian so I watched some footage of the news on their state news network and it was insane. They were calling him not just Golden Boy but "our darling Trump", "our marvelous Trump", and "our wonderful Trump". They also discussed about how Trump has a "weakness for blondes" and will do away with "irritating things" like democracy and will promote Russia to all of America. 

They know they have a fool on their hands. 

My mother just called me crying about Obama's farewell address. I'm not ready to watch this.

Our report just now: https://t.co/S8UDLSCU0Z

— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) January 10, 2017

To be clear: the report details the trending tag on Twitter - Trump on tape with Russian prostitutes, under surveillance as he requests 'golden showers.' He is likely also financially in the hole to Russia, as we all know.

Buzzfeed ran the full documents, which were compiled by ex-MI6 officers last year. The FBI briefed people on this, including the President and McCain and likely other members of Congress.

 

Seth Meyers, of all people, just grilled Kellyanne Conway on this on his late show.

Edited January 11, 20179 yr by Vee

5 minutes ago, Vee said:

 

Why aren't the allegations of the two Trump surrogates and intermediaries of the Russian government the lede? This is something that should not be buried. 

^ I keep seeing that it's "unconfirmed", not sure how that can be if they documents are out there. Hopefully, we'll know more tomorrow.  I think this is somehing that actually has legs though unlike so many of the previous scandals that Trump outlived. Here's hoping anyway.

CNN is running with it, and the intelligence community briefed the President. Major officials are cosigning CNN's story. It's real.

 

From the Guardian.

5 hours ago, jcar03 said:

 

I think they would prefer Pence, he is easier to control than Trump.

 

It would be a lengthy and ugly process to get there, and Pence isn't all that easy to control either. 

That doesn't mean Trump should be allowed to stay in office.

4 hours ago, JaneAusten said:

I want people to remember this information is being leaked by our intelligence agencies. And it's honestly going to get worse when he becomes president. Maybe had Trump not questioned them none of it would have gotten to this point.

 

Considering the damage they did to Hillary when she did nowhere near what he did in terms of questioning and undermining, it seems to me that these agencies are now just going rogue whenever they see fit. It's disturbing to me. This scandal already seems like an excuse for people to tell jokes rather than something that's actually going to have an impact. I have a feeling they would have done the same if she won as well. 

1 minute ago, Vee said:

That doesn't mean Trump should be allowed to stay in office.

 

I don't think he ever should have been elected, but I don't believe Pence is going to be any better. I think he's become some kind of generic savior to many, when his record is just the opposite.

2 hours ago, Khan said:

Oh, Little Jimmy Comey won't talk about the investigation into alleged ties between TrumpCo. and the Kremlin -- in fact, he won't even confirm whether there IS an investigation going on -- but he'll practically stage a Mitzi Gaynor special to inform us he's just gotta take another peek at Hillary's Damn Emails.

 

Seriously, when can we get rid of his basic ass?

 

Yes, Russia will get Trump and the GOP next.  And they will, and they should.  It's exactly what the GOP deserves.

 

If the stories from a few months ago are true, a lot was his fault (face-saving and whatever else), but many of the problems stemmed from some New York branch who repeatedly spent their time leaking and digging for info against Hillary even when ordered to stop.

So Buzzfeed put out a lot of documents and pretty much said "Oh by the way this might not be true." And that's what led to all this about Trump and golden showers? The guy who published them even outright said there's strong reason to not believe any of this?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/jan/10/buzzfeed-publishes-donald-trump-russia-documents-ethics-questions

 

Even if it is true, what an awful precedent this sets. If major news outlets decide to start being even more blatant in pushing outright lies about Democrats (as a number of them danced around with Hillary), how many are going to have a leg to stand on in criticizing it after they ran with this stuff? 

Edited January 11, 20179 yr by DRW50

It's more than that. The Post, CNN, CBS and NBC corroborated it with government officials, and the original report itself was presented by our intelligence agencies to the President.

11 minutes ago, Vee said:

It's more than that. The Post, CNN, CBS and NBC corroborated it with government officials, and the original report itself was presented by our intelligence agencies to the President.

 

Did they corroborate everything Buzzfeed put out that seems to have gotten all the attention? Otherwise it's mostly just been a clown car distracting from the real issue.

There is no way the timid Washington media would put this story on television about an incoming (Republican) President unless they'd cross-checked it. And the report, after being passed to the FBI and deemed credible, was presented by our intelligence people to Obama. That doesn't happen over nothing.

10 minutes ago, Vee said:

There is no way the timid Washington media would put this story on television about an incoming (Republican) President unless they'd cross-checked it. And the report, after being passed to the FBI and deemed credible, was presented by our intelligence people to Obama. That doesn't happen over nothing.

 

I get the feeling they pushed it out because other outlets already had and they were stealing the spotlight. 

 

I can believe it's true, but a lot of the details themselves sound cobbled together and mostly an excuse to get clicks and laughs, which is exactly what happened.