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Kay is going to try to prove that Jill isn't her daughter. I'm guessing Marge ties into that.

Oh wow! Love it!

Aaaah. I like it.

Even though it seems like a story that will, once again, try to bring Jill and Kay more closer, with them staying mother and daughter.

i really am enjoying Lily right now. When she opens up and shows a bit of darkness a few extra colors, it makes me interested in her. and it helps that she has amazing chem with Billy - more than she ever had with Cane, sadly, despite a lot of hard work on everybody's behalf.

I agree with you.

I hope with Lilly and Billy it turns out to be nothing more than a one day humping and dumping. Liam needs to be tied to no woman in a monogamous relationship, that would be such a waste for this exciting character.

ON THE OTHER HAND, I hate disgusting retcons. Victor's vasectomy reversal is a prime example...ultimate breakdown. On B&B, making Eric Forrester the father of Rick was a horrible idea (through an off-camera sex scene that was mentioned months later).

That was Bridget that they did the off camera Brooke was drunk and didn't remember boinking Eric re-write for. I really wish they would reverse that one too.

As for Adam being Jack's, I could see Jack just walking into the apartment and when Hope comes out in a prim and proper nightie saying Victor, is that you, come make luuuuv to me. All Jack would have to do is go mmmm and she'd think it was Victor. They shouldn't go there, though. Just bring back one of Jack's other multiple MIA son's. Although I would like to see Amber being his daughter by Patty/Tawny.

Edited September 23, 200817 yr by BadZoe

Lilly and Billy is BAD news...Khalil drags down everyone she's associated with. Billy Miller is doing great as Billy Abbott in mini Jack mode...he's a good mix of Jill and John, I enjoy it.

Katherine's health issues had better NOT be Alzheimer's or anything related to that. Katherine Chancellor is not meant to rot and die, she's meant to kick ass and then burn out in a brilliant flash.

I hope the memory lapse was simply Marge not following script! And if, somehow, they can undo Kay and Jill's DNA, fabulous, those two should NEVER have been together.

Edited September 24, 200817 yr by Toups

Lilly and Billy is BAD news...Khalil drags down everyone she's associated with. Billy Miller is doing great as Billy Abbott in mini Jack mode...he's a good mix of Jill and John, I enjoy it.

Katherine's health issues had better NOT be Alzheimer's or anything related to that. Katherine Chancellor is not meant to rot and die, she's meant to kick ass and then burn out in a brilliant flash.

I hope the memory lapse was simply Marge not following script! And if, somehow, they can undo Kay and Jill's DNA, fabulous, those two should NEVER have been together.

That's an interesting theory - what if Kay really isn't losing her marbles but that Marge and Kay have already been switched! I'll have to look for some clues.

Edited September 24, 200817 yr by Toups

What happened to spoiler tags?

See, I think Adam is REALLY a "little Jack". And I am hoping SOMEHOW that Jack turns out to be Adam's daddy. They look and act alike.

When Kay found out Jill was her daughter, she had a massive stroke. She had a full recovery, but after Clear Springs she began to experience mini-strokes/TIAs. This is what triggered her decision to write her autobiography with Amber.

(You will recall John has similar memory lapses years ago. Then they disappeared. Then they returned when John was in prison--ostensibly due to a medication reaction and associated delirium--but he died shortly thereafter of a stroke).

In this case, I believe the GOAL is to cognitively incapacitate Kay. Why?

Somehow, I assume this plays into Marge's return.

I did notice a little bit of chemistry. I'm currently anti-Lily which is new for me.

I definitely see Adam as a younger Jack although I know he is supposed to be a younger Victor. Adam is the younger version of Jack today and Billy might be the younger version of Terry Lester's Jack the cad from the 80s.

I wonder if the Kay memory issues also play into Gloria getting her hands on the stock that will give her and the Abbotts controlling interest in Jabot again.

Eden is irritating, but I will give her some time. I am liking Michael's scenes with River. I can't remember the last time Michael and Lauren were actually on four episodes in a row. They were lucky to be on once a week for much of this year.

I want Amber and Daniel together but I thought Amber and Billy were pretty sexy but he is so using her but I guess she is using him also. I can't watch Daniel and Colleen. I think this is the first pairing that has actually made me feel sick at the thought of them together.

Edited September 24, 200817 yr by lmfan

What happened to spoiler tags?

Yeah, come on, guys. Please use spoiler tags!

Maybe you guys are getting a little too confortable posting spoilers in here. We do have a spoiler forum!!

I'm watching Tuesday's episode right now on SoapNet and am not finding Eden's character to be that bad, the actress is a little rough around the edges but she's going from shooting a weekly show like Zoey 101 to a soap which doesn't allow for a lot of rehearsal and has more dialogue. I liked the scenes between Eden and Lauren ....

The best part of the show so far though has been Michael and River's scenes, to bad River couldn't be a long term character because I love the chemistry between him and GloHo a lot more then GloHo/Jeffery.....

Sorry, but CK and BM have about as much chemistry as Judith Chapman and the word subtle.

Actually, JC can play Subtle really well. I have seen her do it before. But Gloria is not a aubtle char at all. She is tacey and over the top. and IMHO JC plays it to perfection.

More River storyline.. yawn... whatever..

But Lauren is on

I would watch paint dry if TEB was standing next to it. lol.

How pathetic is Amber...? Billy barely looked at her the entire night and now she's all over him, like they're so hot together... I mean, I know it's all a play, but she's humiliating herself to make Daniel jealous, with letting Billy use her as his sex toy.

Well, this is Amber. Lol.

How many glasses has Lily drank in this evening? She should be drunk by now! The last three episodes there wasn't a scene where she didn't hold a glass in her hands, taking sips.

maybe she has just sipped on one glass all night?

Billy Miller and Maria Arena Bell both said that Billy was going to come back "changed." Both said he'd come back most similar to Jack in his younger days, not like this "change" wasn't warned. Also, Billy's never been this sweet golden boy some of you think he is. I'm guessing it was a scriptwriter's slip yesterday when someone said he'd "always" been that way. I'm guessing his time away in the business world added a much needed ruthless facet to his character, and now that we know he's going to stir some things up, the amping up of his not so nice characteristics is needed.

I'm sorry, I don't care to see rich, golden boy Billy Abbott ever again. That was fine when he was a teen, but it's time to move on. Miller is playing the first real adult Billy Abbott.

WORD!

But Lauren is on

I did watch all the scenes from the storyline where Lauren was on! All the scenes where she wasn't, I skipped!

I did watch all the scenes from the storyline where Lauren was on! All the scenes where she wasn't, I skipped!

Thats what i do.

Regarding, Adam, I don't see him as Jack's alter ego. In fact, I actually see Adam as very different. He's not an entitled, wealthy country-club-going, networking golden boy -- as he frequently likes to point out. Despite the HBS education, Adam has a HUGE chip on his shoulder about his roots and everybody else's. Kinda like Victor used to have regarding Jack's monied ease. Victor, with his hidden past and foreign accent, was always the outsider while Jack was the ultimate insider. Adam is similar to Victor in the sense that he is the perrenial outsider and loner, too.

However, I do think the Adam/Jack partnership is VERY interesting, because while these two do not mirror each other, they do complement each other.

I also like the idea of Jack possibly taking Adam under his wing and being another father figure to him, one very different from the imposing, forbiding shadow that Victor casts. Jack used to play this role with Nick, too. In fact, he loved Nick like his own son once upon a time. With Jack/Adam, I sort of like the idea of there being families you are born into and "families" you choose to be a part of. If Jack offers Adam the sympathy and support he never got from TGVN, it might be interesting to see how the Tache deals with that.