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Y&R: TV Guide Confirms JG is out and his replacement!

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http://www.cbs.com/daytime/the_young_and_the_restless/about/

Rauch joins Y&R Team

PAUL RAUCH has joined the series as co-executive producer. Paul brings a wealth of experience to Y&R, having served as an executive producer for more than 30 years on such series as GUIDING LIGHT, "Santa Barbara", "One Life to Live" and "Another World." Paul has also served as a producer and consultant on "SPTI" series overseas, including the Russian hit, "Poor Anastasya."

MARIA ARENA BELL has been promoted to co-executive producer while continuing to serve as head writer.

Paul will be overseeing the production of the show and Maria will continue to be in charge of the story.

Really Maria, was it really necessary to get a producer credit out of all of this? We already know you're calling all the shots because of your last name anyway...

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I guess it's good though, Maria will probably make sure Rauch doesn't exert too much tyranny on Y&R as he has with past shows he's EP-ed.

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YESSSSS! Y&R is also getting a new Casting Director!

http://www.cbs.com/daytime/the_young_and_the_restless/about/

Also, CAMILLE ST. CYR has joined the production team as casting director. Some of Camille’s previous credits include overseeing casting on the CBS prime time series NCIS and JAG for three seasons. She has also cast numerous pilots. Camille began her casting career in daytime at "General Hospital" and Port Charles followed by a stint at CBS Talent and Casting.
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ha.

i know you are going to murder me for this but... the only time i ever liked SB was when the Zimmer was on it.

:o Don't worry about Cat- I'm going to obliterate you for that one. Talk about an unpopular opinion- you are the Anti-Christ!

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Yeah, I figured. From the moment you mentioned Donna Summer, Tchaikovsky and musicals, I deduced a whole lot of things about your tastes. :D

Not musicals--jsut Sondheim and LaChiusa. What did you deduce oh wise one? :P That someone on a soap forum tends to like broadly romantic things? Go figure... I think my tastes are pretty eclectic though (and the Donna Summer is more due to Moroder being her producer for the record *gets defensive*) Should I start trying to see what your profile would be from your love of bombast orchestral cues? ;)

Re the Russian show--it looks MILES better than any other period telenovela I've seen--do you disagree with that?

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Now that I got my casting director wish....

I hope Rauch can stop this freelancing directors crap. Just build a real team, Sally McDonald, Dean LaMont, and Andrew Lee seem to be their only mainstay directors. Just add two more or so directors to the team and let them stay there. Consistency people, it works!

I wonder if Deveney Kelly's doing double duty at both B&B and Y&R though, she seems to have popped up a lot in recent weeks in the credits.

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Interesting developments at Y&R, for sure.

But I wouldn't call a casting director who helmed JAG of all shows an improvment... :lol: She at least has soap ties which I think is good.

Don't get why Y&R is dealing with Deveney Kelly though; MIchael Stich, Cynthia Popp and Jennifer Howard are faaaaaar superior to her and would deserve a shot at Y&R. B)

That's just wrong. Why does her GH suck production-wise? Bland sets, terrible costumes? And she is given a lot of power.

JFP might have some power at GH but I think the biggest of money is tied because it goes to the piggy banks of GH's IL DIVO Mo & Steve and their wifebeaters, sparing some cash for Tony Geary and network favorite Ingo Rademacher leaving little money for the rest of cast & production...

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JFP might have some power at GH but I think the biggest of money is tied because it goes to the piggy banks of GH's IL DIVO Mo & Steve and their wifebeaters, sparing some cash for Tony Geary and network favorite Ingo Rademacher leaving little money for the rest of cast & production...

Pretty much.

I wish they would just cut geary lose. Luke Spencer is pointless, the entire 2 months he is on since the actor is on vaca 10 months a year.

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I’ve always been curious about the baseball set. Some say it was very expensive others says it wasn’t because the show recycled older sets to incorporate into the baseball field. However, I find it really hard to believe the set cost one million dollars. At that point, I would assume it would be cheaper to shoot on location or am I wrong?

I don’t think Conboy was as wasteful as people claim. I suspect that Raunch would’ve had to make similar cast cuts had he stayed. I know Kim Zimmer made it very clear during the big contract debate in 2005 that she had already negotiated and taken a cut under John Conboy. Zimmer doesn’t seem like the kind of person who would take a cut if she felt the money was being spent elsewhere. Also, this was around the time of the baseball storyline.

To be honest, I didn’t like a lot of Culliton and Taggert’s work before Conboy came in, but I also wasn’t watching consistently. I remember taping the first appearance of Joan Collins to see if the show had improved any and ended up fast forwarding through the entire episode other than Alexandra’s scenes. I didn’t like Ben and Marina or Beth and Bill. I couldn’t understand how Taggert could defend the Tony and Marah pairing or having a poor widow stripping for a mob boss to pay off her death be a prelude to romance. I thought the custody battle for Zack was poorly done as Phillip became a complete jack***, Harley was a fool, and I couldn’t stand Gus and Harley as a couple. For me, Eden was a bore until Weston made her a hooker. The only storyline that was good was Olivia-Phillip-Alan triangle and the business aspect of Spaulding. I don’t even want to talk about the awful Santa Clause pushes Danny and Cassie together scenes. Ratings wise, GL had been fairly low for years and when Raunch left the ratings were low, I don’t think that was leaving the show in good shape.

My problem with Raunch is I don’t think he would have allowed the stuff to play out as it later did. I felt like MADD cleaned up a lot of stuff before Conboy came in, except for losing Joan Collins. Creatively, Taggert and Culliton had good ideas, but a lot of the stuff was much better executed under Conboy than some right now are giving him credit for. Personally, if Conboy, Taggert, and Culliton had continued to helm “Guiding Light” the show would be in better shape, at least creatively.

Overall, I don’t mind Conboy. I don’t agree with Conboy and Weston’s decision to go for, and deliver, a younger demographic to the show, but they did it successfully. Ratings didn’t fall until after the Maryanne Carrouthers mystery climaxed. When Wheeler came in, she valiantly tried to grab the older viewers that Conboy/Weston had alienated, but failed.

Conboy and Weston did make mistakes, but they maintained most of the characters that Raunch had left, even if that meant they were on recurring status. The show had a core even if it wasn’t used to the best of it’s ability. Also, 2003 was a year most soaps were falling in the ratings whereas Guiding Light remained fairly stable. I just think that while these two weren’t by any means amazing, they weren’t as bad as the were made out to be. Yet, I know that's an unpopular opinion.

Rauchie started to push GL into the hole it got itself into....Conboy just killed it off. Rauchie should never have hired JC to play Alex (and I luurve me some JC Alex...) they didnt have the money to pay her. KZ kept demanding and GETTING huge money, Rauch was determined SHE was the big draw of GL. The JC casting could have payed off in ratings, except for that other cog in the fucked up machine MADD. MADD didnt promote JC like she did the clone (like people would tune into to see two versions of KZ chewing scenery) as she thought Joan Collins was a draw in itself...uh not if no one knows about it. CBS had to step in and start promoting but by then it was too late.

MADD can't be excused for the budget crises....part of the reason she isnt there anymore is because of the budgets.

Conboy could have pulled back and focused the show, but he didnt, his cuts and filming styles and overhalls of the sets and finally the hireing of Brad Cole set them over the edge.

Culliton/Taggerts GL..hmm, its all a manner of person taste. I LOVED it. Joan's Alex was back to being Bev's Alex...the Bauers were restored, the stories were all connected. SOME of the stories werent good, but that is with every soap and writer. The Phillip custody battle and Harley becoming the victim, plus Gus as a Spaulding was all MADD's ideas.

Ratings for GL were to fairly okay when Rauch left, and were starting to slowly raise. Conboy finshed the show off for good. I really do think that if Wheeler had replaced Rauch, was was intented ( another MADD screw up, she was afraid to let her EP so she brought in Conboy at a huge price) with Taggert and Culliton in place...we would not be in the place we are today. Taggert could stand up to Rauchie she sure as hell could stand up to Wheeler, and Wheeler, and I HATE everthing about her GL, was able to get the budget in line, I will give her that (and only that.)

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This entire thread has gottem me to check out some classic Another World on YouTube under Rauch's watch. A show I never watched the first time around.

:) So for that, I thank you, SON.

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... the Opera tradition in Russia is fierce and huge and there are tons of famous Russian operas (From Boris Godunov to Eugene Onegin and Queen of Spades, Borodin's great Prince Igor, to more modern ones like Ivan the Terrible) so I don't think it's too off to say that an opera fan might know some Russian. (I do agree with Sylph that Boris Godunov is heavy and hard to sit through).

Boris is dreary and Prince Igor is even more dreary. Whereas Boris is sloppily written with some savage, almost amateurish harmony, Prince has a lot of problems in its libretto. Not that I mind, mind you. I love Strauss's Die Frau ohne Schätten, in which there is a scene of a chorus of unborn children that sings through the mouths of fish frying in a pan! :lol:Boris and Igor remind me of Verdi's dull, dull, dull Don Carlos.

I am more of a fan of Baroque opera. :D

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Not musicals--jsut Sondheim and LaChiusa. What did you deduce oh wise one? :P That someone on a soap forum tends to like broadly romantic things? Go figure... I think my tastes are pretty eclectic though (and the Donna Summer is more due to Moroder being her producer for the record *gets defensive*) Should I start trying to see what your profile would be from your love of bombast orchestral cues? ;)

Well, shortly: you're somewhere between the love of Eros and Thanatos pieces and sappy, sugary Tchaikovsky-ean works. Add to that a bit of trashy disco and there you go! :lol:

Re the Russian show--it looks MILES better than any other period telenovela I've seen--do you disagree with that?

I've actually never seen another period soap opera... What were some other period soaps? :blink:

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Fair enough. I guess what separates the two of us is that I actually like the fact that daytime doesn't look like primetime. Granted, I like that Y&R is gorgeous and well done...but it isn't ever going to touch a primetime soap and that's fine by me. I like the differentiation between genres in all ways, including visual.

I *get* this but actually have never really felt it. I just expect such different things from daytime that the only time i notice it is in a case like the current GL where they try to use more primetime filming techniques. Otherwise--maybe it's cuz of my theatre background--I think of daytime as almost theatre--dramatic, talk based scenes done on a small series of *sets* and I kinda love this aspect. (It also of c ourse makes the writing much more like theatre--people have to talk more about actions than show them, you have to realize only a certain number of sets can be used, etc). I love and miss when soaps did grand location shots (AMC in Budapest was one of "my first stories") but it does always feel a bit jarring

I mean... I don't want daytime to be primetime in terms of the structure of the episodes etc. I was just referring to the look it has. A lot of these sets are just dreadful. I mean why can't we have the Walker's kitchen (B&S) or a room like Ryan's pool house (The OC). Those sets are nothing, nothing special, bordering on bland, I just randomly and bizarrely chose those two, but daytime looks cheap and awful in comparison.

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