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How were the Nicole Travis Cavenaugh recasts recieved? 

4 hours ago, John said:

How were the Nicole Travis Cavenaugh recasts recieved? 

Just search 'Nicole recast'.  I believe everyone, and their mother, has weighed in on the topic.

Edited August 24, 20241 yr by j swift

 

 

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Raven - the best soap opera character of all time. Sorry everybody else!

1 hour ago, Bright Eyes said:

Raven - the best soap opera character of all time. Sorry everybody else!

Ain't that the truth. Raven can make every scene exciting....dangerous and thrilling. This woman can turn even the most boring atmosphere into a circus in 2 seconds🙈 

One of the most amazing things to me about that that scene, is that it is not the cliffhanger at the end of the episode.  One of the leading actresses is leaving the show, and they didn't give her the final say...

And the background music that builds into the theme song gives me chills every time I watch it.

But, I think it works best with the context of the prior scene with Logan.  In isolation, it looks like Raven is a terrible mother (including calling her baby a 'booger').  Yet, Logan cut her to the core when he told that she was incapable of love, even for her own son.  That's what motivates her to move, and punish Logan by giving Jamey to April.  So, she's really avoiding her pain, and trying to seem callus in order to get Draper to take the baby. It is the many layers of the scene that makes it great.

Edited October 15, 20241 yr by j swift

At first Raven was a great character..but she stayed on far past her expiration date.

Mostly posting this link because it's around the end of Henry Slesar's material and the uploader has several comments about that time (including some from Sharon Gabet) - namely that they were all upset and surprised by the news, but that they were relieved that they thought the Cameron story was finally ending. Ann Flood in particular had complained about the repetition of the story. Yet they couldn't find a replacement writer so had to stall out the story for several more months, with scripts by uncredited staff writers.

Edited October 27, 20241 yr by DRW50

This weekend marks 40 years since the cancellation announcement.

TPTB should have never fired Henry Slesar. Lee Sheldon was not a good fit. He may be a good writer of self contained episodic tv series, but had no idea how to write continuing drama. His stories ran from the ridiculous (mind control by cable TV) , pointless (The Wellington murders-characters and murderer who had no connection to the canvas), to laughable (Beth-the 35 yr old virgin and her slutty sister-“they made me be a palentologist”). The less said about the retconned Logan Swift story the better.(alththough Lois finally got to play something!)

The episode Carl posted is actually Lee Sheldon's first credited episode. The reveal of Nora's murderer happened on Slesar's last episode on May 20, 1983. Sheldon took care of the dangling plot threads during his first few episodes and immediately started setting up his own characters and stories, with Chris Egan debuting during this first week. I recall watching this episode live on WABC New York and immediately knowing something had shifted in the writing.

 

 

I wonder if the real reason Slesar was dismissed was simply down to money.

After more than a decade maybe his salary was just too much to justify so they dropped him. 

Sheldon would have been alot cheaper.

I dread the moment... I will have to watch the show NOT written by Slesar. I love his writing! LOVE. LOVE. LOOOVE.

I don't recall the differences being that severe, in terms of character.

Yes, the stories were faster paced, and lacked the interwoven complexity from before.  But, it is not as if Nancy became mean, or Geraldine lost her bite.  The old characters remained the same, and there were arguably some interesting new ones; like Chris.  Also, I'm a sucker for Alicia Van Dein and her kooky brother.

And I think if we are looking for reasons for the change in writing, it is a tale as old as time. Ratings were slipping, especially in comparison to the lead-in from GH.  Local stations wanted to expand their profitable news segments. So, they fired the writer (or did not renew his contract).  What else is new?

By the time of the cancellation, one could argue that Oprah's emergence was more of an issue than the quality of the production.

Edited October 28, 20241 yr by j swift