Members Sylph Posted June 13, 2010 Author Members Share Posted June 13, 2010 No, Eric! I was anticipating answers like Ruxton's and ChrisB's!!! And voilà! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted August 20, 2010 Author Members Share Posted August 20, 2010 New single: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted August 20, 2010 Members Share Posted August 20, 2010 She has two new albums in the works, one is a dance album, the other is an album of standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted August 20, 2010 Members Share Posted August 20, 2010 I never noticed this before but she looks like Wendy Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members quartermainefan Posted August 21, 2010 Members Share Posted August 21, 2010 this was drearily awful. Where is the catchy hook and up an uptempto fun factor that made Donna Summer the best of all the people who sang disco? Can this song even be hummed. If Tom Kennedy asked anyone to name this tune in three notes, could they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted March 12, 2011 Members Share Posted March 12, 2011 She performed on the David Foster and Friends concert that's been airing this week on various PBS stations... A disclaimer--I kinda hate Foster. Partly cuz he's from where I live and was raised--Victoria, and I had to sing as a kid at some of his Christmas parties (and the media here worships him) and partly cuz he's just too... Well listen to Il Divo. Too much. That said, in the right mood I can appreciate one or two of his productions--him and Diane Warren are the kings at the melodic but insincere power ballad (Unbreak My Heart, Spanish Guitar, lots by Celine) and I actually do like his work with Madonna (You'll See specially). Anyway I at through the concert for Donna Summer--who actually was the finale act. A lot of weird moments--Chaka Khan came on to sing some non hit Foster wrote specifically for her which left the audience dumbfounded until she broke into I'm Every Woman (which Foster had zero involvement with), Earth Wind and Fire who he did a few tracks as a keyboardist with, Michael Bolton trying to tackle his pseudo opera The Prayer--that kinda thing. Donna and Seal (? a random pairing but actually I liked how his softer voice blended with hers) did the last numbers which were Donna covering Unbreak My Heart, then them dueting on Seal's Crazy and Donna's On the Radio (again both songs have zero Foster connection). I'm obviously biased, but definetly the best performances of the night. (Donna ended it with... yawn... Last Dance) (I have a friend who is a HUGE Charice fan but I really just don't get it--but fans of her prob would disagree with my view) I'm surprised how little seems to be online except for audience made videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn1Jj5Zsk1o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDOQh7qyBnM Donna's new album of standards with Foster is set for a Dec release with her dance album (which actually excitingly, unlike the so so Crayons, is her teaming up with a lot of big dance names) is out this Summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted March 12, 2011 Members Share Posted March 12, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmdzqBM4HFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted March 12, 2011 Author Members Share Posted March 12, 2011 Oh my God! OMG! You've just managed to ruin Un-Break My Heart for me! I love that song. OK, I mean, obviously, the trashy Spanish Guitar is nowhere near it and I can see that one as 'insincere'. But Un-Break? You're making me doubt it. Why do you hate it? I don't like him either, but what does 'too much' mean and why is Il Divo an illustration of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted March 12, 2011 Members Share Posted March 12, 2011 I don't hate it--I think it's the pinacle of what Foster and Warren do BEST--and most of their other ballads pale to it. But I do find it kinda insincere--as Warren (a woman who has said she's never felt love lol) tends to be. I dunno why I find Il Divo so awful--or Josh for that matter. I honestly like some commercialisation of opera, but for me it just seems so... middle of the road? It's not one thing or the other and to hide that fact they just amp the strings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted March 12, 2011 Members Share Posted March 12, 2011 I've never cared for it either. It just seemed a little too saccharine, and power ballads don't have a very long relevance with me. I generally hate mid-90's ballad cheese anyway, and I was disgusted by many of the Warren/Foster ballads that were big around that time. After those songs expire, I just don't feel like ever wanting to hear them again. They're too over-produced to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted March 12, 2011 Author Members Share Posted March 12, 2011 Well, Il Divo is awful, I've never cared about pop opera or whatever that is. You're difficult. You like Euro-trash crap and love Madonna (was there ever bigger junk sold as gold?), but hate a 90s power ballad. Dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted March 12, 2011 Members Share Posted March 12, 2011 I love power ballads that wallow in their cheesiness, somewhere in the 90's they started taking themselves way too seriously. If that makes sense. Unbreak attempts to sell itself as some type of ballad perfection, when it's really over-produced crap that's grating after 5 listens. It's cheesy, but won't really admit to it. Many of the Jim Steinman power ballads are very enjoyable because they know they're over the top and cheesy as hell, but I get it, and enjoy it for that reason. Does that make sense? What do you mean by Euro-trash crap? Please, there's so much Euro trash crap that gets on my nerves, and quite a few Madonna albums I don't bother to listen to anymore. You love 90's power ballads and 90's popular music? I actually like a lot of power ballads from the 70's and 80's, but ones from the 90's seem increasingly formulaic, boring, and too pattered to show over "big voices" for my taste. Meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted March 12, 2011 Author Members Share Posted March 12, 2011 Basically, what I miss about music is melody. A certain kind of it. Something that lends itself well for a nice arrangement, live instrumentation coupled with certain electronic tools. In recent years, all I heard was either too kitschy and slushy or ringtone-like. Or both: the song of Kylie's Eric likes – Slow. Apparently, pure sophistication or whatever. All I hear is her annoying squeaky, whispery voice reciting [!@#$%^&*] on top of pulsating, dial-tone beats. It's unnerving. In almost the same way house music is: if you just stop for a millisecond and listen, it's just some shitty repetitive beat below the synths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted March 16, 2011 Members Share Posted March 16, 2011 Actually Y&R while I don't feel as strongly as you--I get that. ANd maybe that's what puts me off by a lot of David Foster--him and many of his fans seem to act like this is Serious Stuff. It's that pretention (then again I could be reading too much into it). I find Jim Steinman to be a huge guilty pleasure, but for all his faults (and the man has a huge ego, don't get me wrong) he has always had a great sense of humour about himself and his music. I guess it's all relative, and could be justified either way... One thing that gets me about 90s power ballads is that was when "Divas' really started to do those ridiculous runs on songs, etc (to be fair, Toni doesn't do this much)--you know the American Idol technique where now someone is called brilliant if they perform Somewhere Over the Rainbow and rarely hit any of the notes as written. One reason I do like Donna and stick up for her is, despite having a diva voice, she rarely ever did this--she tried to serve the song, instead of the other way around. (although there are a couple of Mariah Carey 90s songs I like when in the right mood, but shhh) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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