46 minutes ago, j swift said:

You mention Kelly, but what about Ted?

Ted was the red-headed stepchild of the Capwell children. He was merely a conceptual afterthought.

Sophia had a warmth and charm about her...a vulnerable aura of that made men want to protect and love her.  She used her looks and those other attributes to her advantage.

It's why I liked the Ken/Andie plot against Sophia in the final year of the show because he was younger and attractive.  And he lavished her with attention, which she ate up after seeing CC hooking up with Santana again.

And it was an interesting reversal because she was used by Ken for her money....same way she latched onto the count.

And I agree Cassie should have been her vengeful step daughter.  Kind of like India was to Alexandra on GL.  

 

13 minutes ago, j swift said:

That's funny because it was kind of established during the making of Stephen Slade's movie that she wasn't a great actress, so maybe her other skill served her well in Hollywood...

She wouldn't have been the first or last. I've only seen a few of the episodes during that time, so I can't say. I will say, there are some people who are just blessed with something that draws others to them. 

I also think that at heart, Sophia is very kind and a bit vulnerable. She can turn viper when her people are threatened. But she doesn't start that way with most people. She even had sympathy for Gina at the beginning. And she certainly sees through Mason's bravado when he is hurting. And the private fashion show scenes certainly lead to the belief that she was probably also pretty good.

19 minutes ago, Soaplovers said:

 

And it was an interesting reversal because she was used by Ken for her money....same way she latched onto the count.

And I agree Cassie should have been her vengeful step daughter.  Kind of like India was to Alexandra on GL.  

 

But that's the thing. We don't know that she did latch onto him. I have always assumed that Marcello brought her home to the old geezer and the Count latched onto her. She didn't know who she was and responded to the kindness. We do know Marcello took her from SB and CC and that she didn't know who she was when he did. And she might have latched on because we know she did latch on to CC. Totally a missed opportunity. And it would have given Judith McConnell a storyline other than Oh, CC- which is always good in my opinion.

1 hour ago, Liberty City said:

Ted was the red-headed stepchild of the Capwell children. He was merely a conceptual afterthought.

But we know he was conceived when the atrium was filled with daisies. I hope CC gave Rosa the day off that day. 

1 hour ago, Soaplovers said:

It's why I liked the Ken/Andie plot against Sophia in the final year of the show because he was younger and attractive.  And he lavished her with attention, which she ate up after seeing CC hooking up with Santana again.

And it was an interesting reversal because she was used by Ken for her money....same way she latched onto the count.

Totally agreed, after TJ we saw such an interesting (if not explicitly explored) portrayal of what it is like for an aging Hollywood beauty.

 

1 hour ago, Marissa Gallant said:

Sophia is very kind and a bit vulnerable. She can turn viper when her people are threatened. But she doesn't start that way with most people.

 

1 hour ago, Marissa Gallant said:

We don't know that she did latch onto him. I have always assumed that Marcello brought her home to the old geezer and the Count latched onto her.

That's an interesting perspective and it would seem like Kelly inherited many of Sophia's traits.  They were both kind, until you crossed them, and they were both adored by rich Europeans without having to do much in order attract them.

16 minutes ago, Marissa Gallant said:

But we know he was conceived when the atrium was filled with daisies. I hope CC gave Rosa the day off that day. 

I'm sure she got a rise from C.C., haha.

8 hours ago, Marissa Gallant said:

Stupid Soap Opera Woman Syndrome

😂😂😂😂😂

I really hate Warren's addiction story. I'm okay with gambling stories, but it feels lame for him to say it's because Mommy and Daddy got divorced. Warren, you moved out of their house several years ago and Daddy wasn't around that often. You are a grown azz man. Your reaction has been less mature than Brandon's reactions to his dad's death, his new dad's coma, his mom's death, and being shipped off to a woman he's only known a few years and is way too clingy. And he's six! I just wish there had been a more organic reasoning. 

Maybe no one has told Warren about getting Christmas presents at 2 different houses now.

2 hours ago, Liberty City said:

I'm sure she got a rise from C.C., haha.

As often as she allowed it from what I've seen. 

Warren's addiction is interesting because the seeds were sewn early on that he wanted money for nothing.  He dove for treasure, he stole the coins, and he talked about getting investors for a beach club when he was lifeguard.  This made sense because Lionel was not a great provider, he was covetous of Channing's lifestyle, and he wanted more stability than relying on his grandmother (especially once she began to favor Brick).

On the other hand, he had turned his life around when he bought the newspaper.  Dylan and CC set him up to fail in the casino, and if he just thought about it for a second, he could have used it as an opportunity for an expose to bring down the Capwells.  Also, his addiction goes from 0-60 almost overnight, and there were no long term consequences from that story.  Sophia recovered immediately and CC never did anything with the mortgage to Minx's house.

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9 minutes ago, j swift said:

Warren's addiction is interesting because the seeds were sewn early on that he wanted money for nothing.  He dove for treasure, he stole the coins, and he talked about getting investors for a beach club when he was lifeguard.  This made sense because Lionel was not a great provider, he was covetous of Channing's lifestyle, and he wanted more stability than relying on his grandmother (especially once she began to favor Brick).

On the other hand, he had turned his life around when he bought the newspaper.  Dylan and CC set him up to fail in the casino, and if he just thought about it for a second, he could have used it as an opportunity for an expose to bring down the Capwells.  Also, his addiction goes from 0-60 almost overnight, and there were no long term consequences from that story.  Sophia recovered immediately and CC never did anything with the mortgage to Minx's house.

Didn't John Allen Nelson leave SB after that story ended? Warren popped up again briefly the next year by a different actor. JAN could act and he was certainly handsome, but it seems that he was just lost in the shuffle at SB.

10 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

Didn't John Allen Nelson leave SB after that story ended? Warren popped up again briefly the next year by a different actor. JAN could act and he was certainly handsome, but it seems that he was just lost in the shuffle at SB.

He did. John Allen Nelson got the short-end of the stick where Warren was concerned. It almost makes me wish his pairing with Eden had happened, because it would've created something more for the character.

16 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

John Allen Nelson got the short-end of the stick where Warren was concerned.

It goes without saying that unlike Robin's contract being extended after Princess Bride, JAN did not get the same treatment when he took time off of SB to make his magnum opus, Hunk.

3 minutes ago, j swift said:

It goes without saying that unlike Robin's contract being extended after Princess Bride, JAN did not get the same treatment when he took time off of SB to make his magnum opus, Hunk.

Which is disappointing.

8 minutes ago, j swift said:

It goes without saying that unlike Robin's contract being extended after Princess Bride, JAN did not get the same treatment when he took time off of SB to make his magnum opus, Hunk.

Is that what he is primarily known for to non-SB audiences? I have always thought it was Baywatch and Sheena (it ran on WB in the early 00s). He was also on "24"  for a couple of seasons in the mid 2000s which was a big-deal show back then.

1 minute ago, Lex S said:

Is that what he is primarily known for to non-SB audiences? I have always thought it was Baywatch and Sheena (it ran on WB in the early 00s). He was also on "24"  for a couple of seasons in the mid 2000s which i was a big-deal show back then.

Until SB, I only knew him from Killer Klowns From Outer Space 😂