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GH had a higher percentage of available total viewers watching television during its timeslot than DAYS did. However, more people as a group tuned into DAYS than they did for GH.

Therefore, GH had more HH's, but DAYS had more viewers.

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Almost all these stories are either up to the eye of the beholder or being really misrepresented by you. For instance, if Ramsey was Spencer he wouldn't be reviled by everyone; he'd also be invincible (whereas even drag queens were able to take Ramsey down) and suck up huge amounts of airtime. He's really not on that much. Also, Hunt Block is a much better actor, and making a dangerous character like Ramsey Commissioner and unseating Bo opens up both the LPD characters and Bo for new storylines. But if you don't like Nora, Jared, Todd and Blair, Rex, whatever, I can't help you. That's just your opinion. And it's not universal any more than mine is. It just happens that we both have many people who agree with either of us, whereas this time last year all anybody agreed on was that the show was miserably bad and had virtually no interesting couples or storylines (including, yes, anything with a certain someone). And that's no longer a universal fact today.

Well, they booked a vaudeville group from the 20s, yes, but instead they had to get Mary J. Blige, what can I say?

You realize you just answered your own question, right?

But to elaborate for your benefit, I think there are at least two or three great, layered umbrella storylines on the show that mix in and intertwine with each other and give many characters, old and new, innovative new material. Rex has been explored in a way he never has been before and is suddenly watchable again to a lot of people who wrote him off last year. Gigi is an appealing new love interest and a great friend for Viki, and Charlie and Viki have been wonderful. Todd and Blair have, for at least some people, been refreshed and made watchable again. Consistency and family has returned. Characterization and three-dimensional storytelling is back. Do I think the Jared scam is incredibly original? No, we've seen a fake Buchanan story before, that's true. However, the way it's been done, the skill of it, and the skill with which they've woven it into other new stories so well and so intelligently, while making it part of the larger umbrella of the Buchanans being forced to come together at BE after Asa's death, or while showing Charlie being tempted to go with the loving fake son (Rex) and forget his true son (Jared), and how that story even plays into the stories of Rex, Roxy, Alison, Jessica, etc., is what makes it so interesting to me. That and the fact that Jared and Natalie are great together, and she, like many other women on the show, has been redefined as her own person again.

Yes, I'd like to see Nora and Lindsay doing something else, but I am very grateful that they have the airtime and the good writing they have. I'll let the story continue to unfold because right now I'm not tired of it. The only big duds for me on the show are Bo/Lindsay (which seems like it is an actor thing) and the continued presence of John, Cole, Vincent and Layla. And even the teens story is compelling when it focuses on the troubled relationship between Starr and Langston and not so much Cole in between them.

Your mileage may vary, but I see a show going forward with the future while still respecting the past. Whereas AMC has Angie and Jesse, yes, and a better series of black characters, definitely, but virtually no good story for anyone or anything, black or white. The story unfolding about Jesse's "death" is passable at best - only DM, DW and Cornelius Smith(?) make it entertaining, and that's when they keep fixing the dialogue. With AMC, I only watch Angie, Jesse and Frankie. With OLTL, I can't miss a thing.

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1.(1) Y&R: Monday, 2/11: 4.4/6,006,000

2.(2) B&B: Monday, 2/11: 3.0/3,983,000

3.(3) ATWT: Monday, 2/11: 2.4/3,253,000

4.(6) GL: Monday, 2/11: 2,0/2,963,000

5.(5) DAYS: Monday, 2/11: 2.2/2,947,000

6.(7) AMC: Monday, 2/11: 2.2/2,825,000

7.(4) GH: Monday, 2/11: 2.2/2,752,000

8.(8) OLTL: Monday, 2/11: 2.1/2,636,000

1.(1) Y&R: Tuesday, 2/12: 4.3/6,075,000

2.(2) B&B: Tuesday, 2/12: 3.1/4,299,000

3.(3) ATWT: Tuesday, 2/12: 2.6/3,512,000

4.(7) GH: Tuesday, 2/12: 2.4/3,103,000

5.(5) DAYS: Tuesday, 2/12: 2.3/3,032,000

6.(4) GL: Tuesday, 2/12: 2,1/2,796,000

7.(8) OLTL: Tuesday, 2/12: 2.2/2,765,000

8.(6) AMC: Tuesday, 2/12: 2.1/2,732,000

1.(1) Y&R: Wednesday, 2/13: 4.1/5,751,000

2.(2) B&B: Wednesday, 2/13: 2.9/3,821,000

3.(3) ATWT: Wednesday, 2/13: 2.3/3,119,000

4.(5) DAYS: Wednesday, 2/13: 2.2/3,064,000

5.(4) GH: Wednesday, 2/13: 2.2/3,017,000

6.(8) AMC: Wednesday, 2/13: 2.2/2,757,000

7.(6) GL: Wednesday, 2/13: 2.0/2,724,000

8.(7) OLTL: Wednesday, 2/13: 2.0/2,566,000

1.(1) Y&R: Thursday, 2/14: 4.0/5,435,000

2.(2) B&B: Thursday, 2/14: 2.8/3,711,000

3.(4) DAYS: Thursday, 2/14: 2.1/2,882,000

4.(3) ATWT: Thursday, 2/14: 2.2/2,877,000

5.(5) GH: Thursday, 2/14: 2.3/2,808,000

6.(7) GL: Thursday, 2/14: 1.9/2,611,000

7.(8) OLTL: Thursday, 2/14: 2.1/2,547,000

8.(6) AMC: Thursday, 2/14: 2.0/2,512,000

1.(1) Y&R: Friday, 2/15: 4.1/5,946,000

2.(2) B&B: Friday, 2/15: 2.9/4,217,000

3.(4) ATWT: Friday, 2/15: 2.2/3,269,000

4.(3) DAYS: Friday, 2/15: 2.1/2,887,000

5.(5) GH: Friday, 2/15: 2.2/2,729,000

6.(6) GL: Friday, 2/15: 1.8/2,690,000

7.(8) AMC: Friday, 2/15: 2.1/2,653,000

8.(7) OLTL: Friday, 2/15: 2.1/2,575,000

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I should correct myself,

A household ratings is a percentage on average of how many households were watching a program at any given moment in time. The share is a percentage of all televisions in use during the airing of a program.

This means that there could be 2.3 million households watching GH, but 7 percent of all televisions in use during GH were tuned to ABC for the show. There can be 5 TV's in a household tuned to GH, but only once will the household be counted. This is where Total Viewers comes in.

The share does not deem a show as better quality than another. It just shows what viewers find more interest in.

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Now I see the problem! You seem to be operating under the impression that I'm submitting my opinion for some kind of approval or validation. Let me be clearer. You asked me what makes RC's writing out of date other than the fact that I'd rather see someone else writing. I turned the question back on you to make a point. My opinion is no more valid than yours. And yours is no more valid than mine.

I don't like Ron's writing. I find it boring, trite and irrelevant. I think he's been skating by on the fact that Higley was a nightmare. And no matter how many publicist-planted stories show up in the mags touting him as the messiah of daytime, my opinion won't change. You seem to have taken an unusual level of offense at my disdain for the show. I know a lot of people hated it last year (and BTW I have no idea who a "certain someone" is. I'm guessing John? I like the guy but the character like many under Ron's pen has become a bore. I'm desperately hoping ME leaves this sinking ship.) but a lot of people hate it now too. And a lot more people just aren't watching anymore.

You obviously enjoy Ron's writing. Wonderful. Kudos. Celebrate! I only hope you can find enough flowers to fill all the crystal vases! I don't need you to "help" me, elaborate for my "benefit" or discuss my varying "mileage."

We disagree. So be it. Why the drama?

I stand by my original comment. ABC needs a clean sweep and that includes RC.

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My guess is that Frons is actually quite pleased with the ratings for AMC for last week. They did well in the 18-49 demo and that is the only one that matters to him. Who cares if they were almost in last place in total viewers and households. Those other age groups don't matter. :rolleyes:

It is pretty sad that Days is doing better than the ABC soaps and that is the one most likely going to be canceled. I think other than the loss of 3 million viewers for ABC daytime, Frons is doing one heck of good job!!!!!! :blink:

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Thank you for a very fair and balanced post. LML is very unfairly criticized, and I often see on boards folks get into almost a feeding frenzy of LML criticism... even going after things that occured before her tenure on y/r. IOW, if it's bad, it must be LML's fault.

the ratings ROSE under her hand, at least at first. Then they dropped. and in the end, it was (almost) a wash. I came from the horrible Fronzified ABC soaps over to Y/R and was sooo delighted to see, UNDER LML, a more balanced cast than I had seen on ABC for years... VETS having front burner stories... I could enjoy soaps again. I no longer felt like the genre was doomed.

Any writer has their problems... but LML had some victories as well was some misses. Let's hope CBS/SONY doesn't toss the baby with the bathwater.

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