Jump to content

February 11-15, 2008


Toups

Recommended Posts

  • Webmaster

GH had a higher percentage of available total viewers watching television during its timeslot than DAYS did. However, more people as a group tuned into DAYS than they did for GH.

Therefore, GH had more HH's, but DAYS had more viewers.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 125
  • Created
  • Last Reply
  • Members

Almost all these stories are either up to the eye of the beholder or being really misrepresented by you. For instance, if Ramsey was Spencer he wouldn't be reviled by everyone; he'd also be invincible (whereas even drag queens were able to take Ramsey down) and suck up huge amounts of airtime. He's really not on that much. Also, Hunt Block is a much better actor, and making a dangerous character like Ramsey Commissioner and unseating Bo opens up both the LPD characters and Bo for new storylines. But if you don't like Nora, Jared, Todd and Blair, Rex, whatever, I can't help you. That's just your opinion. And it's not universal any more than mine is. It just happens that we both have many people who agree with either of us, whereas this time last year all anybody agreed on was that the show was miserably bad and had virtually no interesting couples or storylines (including, yes, anything with a certain someone). And that's no longer a universal fact today.

Well, they booked a vaudeville group from the 20s, yes, but instead they had to get Mary J. Blige, what can I say?

You realize you just answered your own question, right?

But to elaborate for your benefit, I think there are at least two or three great, layered umbrella storylines on the show that mix in and intertwine with each other and give many characters, old and new, innovative new material. Rex has been explored in a way he never has been before and is suddenly watchable again to a lot of people who wrote him off last year. Gigi is an appealing new love interest and a great friend for Viki, and Charlie and Viki have been wonderful. Todd and Blair have, for at least some people, been refreshed and made watchable again. Consistency and family has returned. Characterization and three-dimensional storytelling is back. Do I think the Jared scam is incredibly original? No, we've seen a fake Buchanan story before, that's true. However, the way it's been done, the skill of it, and the skill with which they've woven it into other new stories so well and so intelligently, while making it part of the larger umbrella of the Buchanans being forced to come together at BE after Asa's death, or while showing Charlie being tempted to go with the loving fake son (Rex) and forget his true son (Jared), and how that story even plays into the stories of Rex, Roxy, Alison, Jessica, etc., is what makes it so interesting to me. That and the fact that Jared and Natalie are great together, and she, like many other women on the show, has been redefined as her own person again.

Yes, I'd like to see Nora and Lindsay doing something else, but I am very grateful that they have the airtime and the good writing they have. I'll let the story continue to unfold because right now I'm not tired of it. The only big duds for me on the show are Bo/Lindsay (which seems like it is an actor thing) and the continued presence of John, Cole, Vincent and Layla. And even the teens story is compelling when it focuses on the troubled relationship between Starr and Langston and not so much Cole in between them.

Your mileage may vary, but I see a show going forward with the future while still respecting the past. Whereas AMC has Angie and Jesse, yes, and a better series of black characters, definitely, but virtually no good story for anyone or anything, black or white. The story unfolding about Jesse's "death" is passable at best - only DM, DW and Cornelius Smith(?) make it entertaining, and that's when they keep fixing the dialogue. With AMC, I only watch Angie, Jesse and Frankie. With OLTL, I can't miss a thing.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

1.(1) Y&R: Monday, 2/11: 4.4/6,006,000

2.(2) B&B: Monday, 2/11: 3.0/3,983,000

3.(3) ATWT: Monday, 2/11: 2.4/3,253,000

4.(6) GL: Monday, 2/11: 2,0/2,963,000

5.(5) DAYS: Monday, 2/11: 2.2/2,947,000

6.(7) AMC: Monday, 2/11: 2.2/2,825,000

7.(4) GH: Monday, 2/11: 2.2/2,752,000

8.(8) OLTL: Monday, 2/11: 2.1/2,636,000

1.(1) Y&R: Tuesday, 2/12: 4.3/6,075,000

2.(2) B&B: Tuesday, 2/12: 3.1/4,299,000

3.(3) ATWT: Tuesday, 2/12: 2.6/3,512,000

4.(7) GH: Tuesday, 2/12: 2.4/3,103,000

5.(5) DAYS: Tuesday, 2/12: 2.3/3,032,000

6.(4) GL: Tuesday, 2/12: 2,1/2,796,000

7.(8) OLTL: Tuesday, 2/12: 2.2/2,765,000

8.(6) AMC: Tuesday, 2/12: 2.1/2,732,000

1.(1) Y&R: Wednesday, 2/13: 4.1/5,751,000

2.(2) B&B: Wednesday, 2/13: 2.9/3,821,000

3.(3) ATWT: Wednesday, 2/13: 2.3/3,119,000

4.(5) DAYS: Wednesday, 2/13: 2.2/3,064,000

5.(4) GH: Wednesday, 2/13: 2.2/3,017,000

6.(8) AMC: Wednesday, 2/13: 2.2/2,757,000

7.(6) GL: Wednesday, 2/13: 2.0/2,724,000

8.(7) OLTL: Wednesday, 2/13: 2.0/2,566,000

1.(1) Y&R: Thursday, 2/14: 4.0/5,435,000

2.(2) B&B: Thursday, 2/14: 2.8/3,711,000

3.(4) DAYS: Thursday, 2/14: 2.1/2,882,000

4.(3) ATWT: Thursday, 2/14: 2.2/2,877,000

5.(5) GH: Thursday, 2/14: 2.3/2,808,000

6.(7) GL: Thursday, 2/14: 1.9/2,611,000

7.(8) OLTL: Thursday, 2/14: 2.1/2,547,000

8.(6) AMC: Thursday, 2/14: 2.0/2,512,000

1.(1) Y&R: Friday, 2/15: 4.1/5,946,000

2.(2) B&B: Friday, 2/15: 2.9/4,217,000

3.(4) ATWT: Friday, 2/15: 2.2/3,269,000

4.(3) DAYS: Friday, 2/15: 2.1/2,887,000

5.(5) GH: Friday, 2/15: 2.2/2,729,000

6.(6) GL: Friday, 2/15: 1.8/2,690,000

7.(8) AMC: Friday, 2/15: 2.1/2,653,000

8.(7) OLTL: Friday, 2/15: 2.1/2,575,000

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Webmaster

I should correct myself,

A household ratings is a percentage on average of how many households were watching a program at any given moment in time. The share is a percentage of all televisions in use during the airing of a program.

This means that there could be 2.3 million households watching GH, but 7 percent of all televisions in use during GH were tuned to ABC for the show. There can be 5 TV's in a household tuned to GH, but only once will the household be counted. This is where Total Viewers comes in.

The share does not deem a show as better quality than another. It just shows what viewers find more interest in.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Now I see the problem! You seem to be operating under the impression that I'm submitting my opinion for some kind of approval or validation. Let me be clearer. You asked me what makes RC's writing out of date other than the fact that I'd rather see someone else writing. I turned the question back on you to make a point. My opinion is no more valid than yours. And yours is no more valid than mine.

I don't like Ron's writing. I find it boring, trite and irrelevant. I think he's been skating by on the fact that Higley was a nightmare. And no matter how many publicist-planted stories show up in the mags touting him as the messiah of daytime, my opinion won't change. You seem to have taken an unusual level of offense at my disdain for the show. I know a lot of people hated it last year (and BTW I have no idea who a "certain someone" is. I'm guessing John? I like the guy but the character like many under Ron's pen has become a bore. I'm desperately hoping ME leaves this sinking ship.) but a lot of people hate it now too. And a lot more people just aren't watching anymore.

You obviously enjoy Ron's writing. Wonderful. Kudos. Celebrate! I only hope you can find enough flowers to fill all the crystal vases! I don't need you to "help" me, elaborate for my "benefit" or discuss my varying "mileage."

We disagree. So be it. Why the drama?

I stand by my original comment. ABC needs a clean sweep and that includes RC.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

My guess is that Frons is actually quite pleased with the ratings for AMC for last week. They did well in the 18-49 demo and that is the only one that matters to him. Who cares if they were almost in last place in total viewers and households. Those other age groups don't matter. :rolleyes:

It is pretty sad that Days is doing better than the ABC soaps and that is the one most likely going to be canceled. I think other than the loss of 3 million viewers for ABC daytime, Frons is doing one heck of good job!!!!!! :blink:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Thank you for a very fair and balanced post. LML is very unfairly criticized, and I often see on boards folks get into almost a feeding frenzy of LML criticism... even going after things that occured before her tenure on y/r. IOW, if it's bad, it must be LML's fault.

the ratings ROSE under her hand, at least at first. Then they dropped. and in the end, it was (almost) a wash. I came from the horrible Fronzified ABC soaps over to Y/R and was sooo delighted to see, UNDER LML, a more balanced cast than I had seen on ABC for years... VETS having front burner stories... I could enjoy soaps again. I no longer felt like the genre was doomed.

Any writer has their problems... but LML had some victories as well was some misses. Let's hope CBS/SONY doesn't toss the baby with the bathwater.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.



  • Recent Posts

    • There's some irony in Philip being forgiven, because it forces everyone to admit that Victor was wrong to change his will.  Everyone, eventually including Xander, (I presume), seems to think it was wrong for Victor to divide his estate in Xander's favor.  I appreciated Stephanie forgiving Philip, because she's got no skin in that game.  But, Belle's line about Philip missing Xander because he misses Bo did not ring true.  I think Philip would be sad if Bo dies, but I think he's more concerned currently about Xander. I am enjoying this EJ mystery so much that I am hereby taking a vow not to read spoilers.  I am also vowing — for the last time — to stop harping on this, but: the concept of a “sepsis treatment” remains absurd. Hospitals prevent sepsis through vigilant infection control; once sepsis sets in, it causes multiple organ failures. Treatment involves supporting each failing organ individually. The notion that a single medication could magically reverse organ failure is medically laughable. However, I like the contrast of Kim going through cancer, which is incurable in their universe.  Kayla's comment on the health of both of her siblings was both heartbreaking and an interesting twist.  MBE is also totally underrated.  She is carrying the weight of so many stories.   And, I like the use of Kayla as an audience surrogate.  She's arguably the most "real" person in Salem. Kayla isn't psychic, she wasn't SORASed, she's not a billionaire, and she doesn't have a bionic eye.  So, I enjoy that we get her perspective of the nuttiness that surrounds her. However, I don't get what gives her the authority to turn down EJ's offer.  I understand that they need a hospital figurehead to show us scenes of the competition to buy the hospital.  But, unless the entire administration has been let go, the Chief of Staff wouldn't make those choices.
    • But why worry about something that might not happen? Right now, most things revolve around the Duprees. We have no idea if or how long that will continue. For now, it's working.
    • The Duprees not having any staff is a bugbear for me. They've included the background staff at the Country Club but no one at the Dupree home. Even just an extra bringing in a tray of food/drinks or responding to a request from Anita would suffice.
    • Shut up, Dante and Lois.  I actually don't mind this particular soap trope, but in the context of this storyline, it just feels forced and unnecessary. If anything, this Dante/Gio tension needed to begin months ago. Plus, this storyline, in general, isn't doing Lois any favors either.  Emma comforting Gio was really sweet though. It's definitely time for the two of them to have their first kiss. And, Joss playing Secret Agent Barbie will just never work.
    • Note to makeup - Smitty’s eyebrows, bad clamshell look.  

      Please register in order to view this content

    • Okay I can buy that when Brook Lynn was a teen.  Now she knows the child is a boy one would think she'd be slightly suspicious.  Then again, Gio looks nothing like either of them so maybe not lol.
    • I've been behind & just got caught up & the last 3 days were amazing!
    • Yeah.  The hot, poor bad boy with a chip on his shoulder but with a heart of gold was a common soap trope in the 80s 

      Please register in order to view this content

    • That's been an issue with me... the lack of a cohesive 'Have Not' crowd that has focus other than Leslie/Eva.   I would beef up Jan, Mona, Laura, Joey, and few other male characters.. and not just be out to overthrow the Duprees.. but co-existing and broadening the scope of the show since the show is called Beyond the Gates. I think the set up the show has with everything revolving around the Duprees will become predictable especially if they always win.   It would be like Victor Newman on Y & R for 40+ years.. always winning, hardly ever losing.   With MVJ/Guza.. both trained under that mindset... I fear that will happen.   I've always heard from a performer that is playing a character like Leslie/Dana that you have to find the victim/hurt beneath the surface in order to play a villain/villainess... and I think that's why I enjoy watching her.. because she brings so much more to the part than what the writers put on the page.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy