Members Vee Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 If you're so sure, why did you ask in the thread about who she is and what this was about? If you wanted to know from us, why did you go get all that [!@#$%^&*] yourself to support your own opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 What sh!t and what opinion? And I really didn't know all about that Cocacolagate thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 Well, my confusion stems from your asking about the board's experience with this...concept, said you were curious to hear from us, but before most people could answer you you come up with gushing articles, highlighted quotes, and are championing her to me. Either you want to know or you'd already made up your mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 I think this is a misunderstanding. I posted those two quotes because I didn't want this thread to turn into "Hating Naima Bint" before some people even formed an opinion about her. In many ways I'm disgusted, too, by what she did and all this crazy atmosphere that surrounds every single discussion about her. And I thought that if in some way someone would be able to detach her personality and that sh!t connected to her, those quotes would stand as a the sort of thing daytime industry needs. I'm not championing her, I just want to forget all those terrible things that happened and that could have happened, and somehow look at this person in a new light and just be focused on her work as a writer and possible fresh voice in serials. I don't care if her mother was a Somali princess, I don't care if she was Osama's mistress, I don't care if she has an unnaturally augmented libido or whatsoever, I just don't care. To me, she is interesting as a writer, and I was really unaware of the Colagate and that is why I asked, although I somehow predicted no-one will publicly answer me. So here is your chance to speak and tell us your version of the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChangedBYSon Posted October 18, 2007 Author Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 She did win that award. It was presented to her at the Schomburg Center. Are you legally about to try and claim that she didn't win an award and that she's lying? And what Legal basis would you be making that claim on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChangedBYSon Posted October 18, 2007 Author Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 I agree Stenbeck. I also believe that racism and "petty" KNIT-PICKING is what drive many of the hateful comments by people on this board. The industry is dying and they're too busy being prudes over b.s. that doesn't equate a hill of beans. Did you see how they posted her Arabic birth name? There's obviously a lot of prejudicial undertones to this childishness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChangedBYSon Posted October 18, 2007 Author Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 Our soaps are dying and you're sitting up worrying about who is trolling the frigg'n internet! There's network executives on these boards acting like 6 and 7 year olds and you're trying to bring back McArthyism just so you can hate on a black writer trying to kick some doors open for herself? Your priorities are SO under the bus, man. Talent is talent. Vola voof is no more "strange" than Madonna, Kim Zimmer or any other wildly successful person with a party girl streak. So what she got bored and went online to entertain herself. So frigg'n what, man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChangedBYSon Posted October 18, 2007 Author Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 That's because most of it is a lie that they've invented about her. She used to post online at WOST if I'm not mistaken and she used her real identity and she's posted other places as herself. I've been accused of being her and I'm not, so that's how I know they're lying on her. They have "other reasons" for hating this broad. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 That name was posted because of the following reasons: 1. K-o-l-a B. automatically turns into an acronym. 2. K-o-l-a sounds like a parody name to me and I don't like it. Especially when paired with "B-oo-f". 3. I love Arabic language and I also love that name. I have a huge collection of Arabic music (from Oum Kulthoum to Amr Diab and Elissa) and Naguib Mahfouz is one of my favourite writers (I haven't read anything by Tawfiq al-Hakim). I'm such a fan of Arabic culture that this thread would be a huge off-topicking all over the place if I started a discussion on that. And if you wanna now - in this precise moment I'm listening to Khalik ma'aya. 4. I would like if she used that name and threw K-ol-a into the litter bin. So it's not at all racially motivated or anything of the sort... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YRBB Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 I, for one, would love to have her write one of the soaps I watch. She seems like she could kick life into any of the soaps actually! Oh, I feel so bad, I can't call Rararara, Ru. It's just not fair!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 So would I, YRBB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 But I thought you hadn't formed an opinion about her, either. It's not possible to detach that. From what little I've seen this craziness goes back before this silly little site. Someone made it their business to have this [!@#$%^&*] follow this name around for a long, long time. And daytime needs someone who cares more about being a competent professional writer than being a college kid's fuckin' Myspace friend and having multiple screen names and trolling the board to keep her name out there. Whether or not she herself did that - if she really exists at all - that [!@#$%^&*] is only ruining any name she has. That can only happen if this endless trolling re: her stops. And it won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 There are no network execs. There are no career opportunities. There is no hope for a daytime career for anyone on this board simply by posting here, black white or polka dot. Anyone trying to "make a name for themselves" with trolling a board full of moms and kids is just humiliating themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChangedBYSon Posted October 18, 2007 Author Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 I MISS AREMID, the following doesn't make sense. Apparently, People Feel Strongly About [s.W.S.N.B.N.] So I ran this item yesterday about how [s.W.S.N.B.N.] received a Swedish literary award last month while giving a reading at Harlem's Schomburg Center for Research in Black Culture. That prompted a bunch of unhinged racist e-mails yesterday afternoon, all from the same anonymous remailer. This morning, I get another, saner bit of correspondence from somebody much nicer, politely explaining that I had been hoodwinked. So I start Googling around, and it gets interesting. OK, so apparently Boof's story about this award has changed; her email to GalleyCat said she'd won the "World Author's Woman to Woman Pen," but back in July, she was calling it the "Gudrun Schyman Pen in Feminist Prose." Maybe these things change as translations from the Swedish get more reliable, I dunno. Then my pseudonymous correspondent tells me that there never was any reading at the Schomburg Center, and that was a little trickier—it turns out, as best I can determine, that she did speak in the Langston Hughes Auditorium, but that it wasn't an official NYPL event, so it doesn't show up on their website, but people who were there took pictures and wrote about it. (Even the racist from yesterday afternoon had said he'd gone!) By then, I've determined that the online forums where all these arguments about the veracity of anything Boof says about herself play out are, frankly, a world of crazy (as nearly all online discussion boards tend to be), and I'm ready to bail. Everyone knows that the Langston Hughes Auditorium is located INSIDE the Schomburg Center. WTF? I was also at the event, so I know that an award was given to Ms. Boof. Glad he mentioned that people took pictures. He's totally right about people on the internet "inventing" baseless and hateful CRAZY stuff about this woman. Personally, I think it all stems from the fact that she's a black woman trying to overcome her past and make something of herself and people generally despise ambitious women. Add her color and she's considered a "bitch". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted October 18, 2007 Members Share Posted October 18, 2007 I formed an opinion about her, but I didn't form it on that affair that happened last year or whenever because I couldn't have since I didn't know what was going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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