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4 hours ago, Fevuh said:

Well as a really long-ass analogy....It's kind of like wanting a hearing or having a hearing to see if the election was fair or not when there's no real evidence that it wasn't fair (and you still lost by 7 million votes and not all of those people were dead or ineligible to vote and elections in this country have never been proven to be unfair with the possible exception of one prior election that had outside influence via social media but you won that election so you didn't care)....and none of that would have mattered anyway and you can have Arizona and Pennsylvania too if you want them and the Democrats still win the election with 273 electoral college votes anyway).....this hearing is kind of like that.

😂 love it!

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5 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

I don't know what tournaments Novak plans on playing this year. He won't be able to play unvaccinated. 

Darren Cahill thinks Novak will fight this in ever tournament he plans to play.

Maybe so, but NYC is not Melbourne, they will send his a$s back on a plane out of there. This is the city of September 11th, 2001, they don't play.

NYC was also the first epicenter of the COVID pandemic in the United States, so they won't give him leeway in that regard either. I'd be interested in watching him try though.

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Has Nadal seen what Novak's lawyers said in their argument? According to them, the Australian Open can't survive without him. The legal documents have been posted online for all to see.

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Mary Carrillo was on with Christiane Amanpour and said Novak should not be allowed to play.  He along with the TA and Craig Tiley are responsible for all this mess. She said Craig bent the rules to get Novak to play. She wonders how long he'll stay in his position. She also said Novak broke a lot of ATP rules/guidelines. That he's in a whole lot of trouble.

1 hour ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Has Nadal seen what Novak's lawyers said in their argument? According to them, the Australian Open can't survive without him. The legal documents have been posted online for all to see.

That's ridiculous!

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10 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Apparently, the hearing that just occurred was procedural.

The actual hearing (sigh) is Sunday morning local time-- 5:30 pm EST Saturday.

Just a little over 12 hours from now. Will be interesting TV viewing tomorrow morning.

10 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

I don't know what tournaments Novak plans on playing this year. He won't be able to play unvaccinated. 

Darren Cahill thinks Novak will fight this in ever tournament he plans to play.

Do players have to be vaccinated for all the 4 slams?

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2 hours ago, SnCCorinthos4ever said:

Just a little over 12 hours from now. Will be interesting TV viewing tomorrow morning.

Do players have to be vaccinated for all the 4 slams?

The majors pretty much decide their own standards, practices and policies. Tennis has never really had that type of cohesion, from prize money to fines, etc. it all seems to depend on the individual tournament. Even during the pandemic, the first year, Wimbledon, which had taken out pandemic insurance a few years prior, elected not to have a tournament, while the U.S  Open decided to stage a tournament without spectators, and Roland Garros moved the dates of their tournament that year from spring to autumn, after the US Open. The last time the 4 majors decided to coordinate judgement, was when they decided they were going to levy penalties against Naomi Osaka for declaring that, for mental health reasons, she would skip the post-match press conference during the Roland Garros tournament and accept the fines. Collectively, and within short order they decided to issue a joint statement stating that they would penalize her for any missed press conference, which could ultimately have resulted in her expulsion from their tournaments, Osaka withdrew from Roland Garros after she won her second round match. The four major tournaments really haven't been in accord in any other matters since.

In other words, whatever seems to work for each individual tournament is what they decide to do. Every tennis association for themselves.

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^^

But as we've seen in Australia it's ultimately the individual governments in France, the UK and the US that has final say. If they decide that anyone who's not vaccinated won't be allowed to enter then there's not much a single tennis tournament can do.

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43 minutes ago, I Am A Swede said:

^^

But as we've seen in Australia it's ultimately the individual governments in France, the UK and the US that has final say. If they decide that anyone who's not vaccinated won't be allowed to enter then there's not much a single tennis tournament can do.

It's more like NYC/NY state government that makes the determination, since different states have different protocols and rules- we see this in how mask mandates and vaccination rules for indoor dining, etc. are issued.

 

Hey, good for Thanasi.

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I can't believe how poorly the Australian Open will be covered by ESPN. Most if not all will be shown on ESPN+. That's ridiculous! Why do they want the tournament if they aren't showing it on TV?

I did notice too that ESPN acquired the rights to PGA tournaments which now airs on ESPN+. 

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I remember watching Chris Evert compete on TV in 1975.  TV always showed less women's sports than men's sports back then. Sigh.
Grateful that they caught Evert's cancer early.

That's two things I don't miss. 
1) the old days of limited TV coverage of women's sports
2) the old days of untreatable cancers.

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