um, no, it's not making an issue out of nothing. He's doing it TO get under our skin.

So we'll give him what he clearly wants: a response.

but don't you get tired of it. i mean DAYS is my favourite soap ever but i not going to jump down his throat because i know it's not going to change anything. me writing a response would just be pointless drivel to him. so there is NO point.

Edited February 3, 200719 yr by Amello

but don't you get tired of it. i mean DAYS is my favourite soap ever but i not going to jump down his throat because i know it's not going to change anything. me writing a response would just be pointless drivel to him. so there is NO point.

Diff'r'nt strokes for diff'r'nt folks.

I feel bad now for attack against max...sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings, I shouldn't have been a you know what and gone off my rocker about it...

DAYS would be in the Top 2 with Y&R for me.

Also does anyone really care what Max has to say about DAYS? He is allowed to have an opinion and although it is an unpopular one, there is no point in trying to argue with him about things he has made pretty clear in the past.

As someone else said, Different strokes....not everyone is going to love DAYS since JER left!

It depends on what the definition of "good soap" is nowadays. If it's all about the drama, GH takes the top spot, with Y&R and GL behind them, followed by AMC and Days (haven't watched the rest enough to judge). If we're judging 'good soap' in the traditional 'family' sense, Days and GL are tops, with the rest trailing behind.

Not surprisingly, those soaps are getting the most buzz these days on the boards. But none of them are perfect. GH is slapping viewers in the face with an upcoming death. Y&R is slapping Sheila fans and Sheila haters in the face by raping the character and tossing her in an assinine story for Y&R's standards, not to mention writing out Ashley Abbott. On GL, while the Tammy death story is gut-wrenching, it's caused many Tammy/Jonathan fans to tune out because they feel slapped in the face (or so I've read). AMC killed Dixie... need I say more? And Days has backburnered Bo/Hope, while tossing John and Marlena in a lame "dream visit" storyline -- two decisions that have some fans peeved.

In the end, these five shows have taken the biggest risks lately (in different ways). Whether we're watching because of great storytelling or watching because it's like a trainwreck (you can't help but look), we're watching. In the end, we'll see which pay off and which do more damage than good.

Meanwhile, can anyone tell me if the murder mystery on OLTL is interesting? Or is it just your standard soap murder mystery? It looks interesting, so I might tune in if it's worth it.

Edited February 3, 200719 yr by Kenny

Great post Kenny.

As to the murder mystery on OLTL. So far it looks pretty good. Not enough to keep me tuning in everyday, but I really think OLTL is trying to get back on good footing. I applaud it for the changes that they have made.

1. DAYS 5.8

2. Y&R 5.4

3. GH 5.1

4. GL 5.0

5. B&B 4.6

6. ATWT 4.0

7. PSNS 2.8

8. AMC 2.4

9. OLTL 2.1

LOL. When Max disses PSNS no one seems to care, but when he disses DAYS many get upset.

Honestly, if we're basing it on quality then the ratings seem perfectly fine to me the way they are. However, I'll admit that GL/GH/DAYS may be a bit higher.

And why the heck should Y&R be pulling 5's or 6's? Please. I thought we were basing this on quality.

Edited February 4, 200719 yr by DruRocks

Well I'm no one to come to Y&R's defense, the show has been hit or miss with me in the writing department. Alot in the miss. However, Y&R continues to wow me with it's production. Music and direction are still top notch with me. When I did my ratings it wasn't only writing but production played a part also.

True, the production and acting has always been top notch. However, with the slew of newbies, it's going to be hard to keep that up. I'm hating what this show has become. I wish LML will admit defeat and step down, since the higher ups seem to adore her.

True, the production and acting has always been top notch. However, with the slew of newbies, it's going to be hard to keep that up. I'm hating what this show has become. I wish LML will admit defeat and step down, since the higher ups seem to adore her.

I'm with you on that.

Dru, I am about to just give up on preaching about the newbie situation. It seems like every show is filled or dominated with characters or performers who have been with their shows less than a year or 2 years.

ATWT doesn't bring back former performers anymore. They just recast. So many of the characters are old ones but they all have new faces.

GL is about the same way. When I first started back watching full time, it took me forever to figure out who some of them were.

Days despite what some people think has a lot of new faces in town whether they be new characters or recasts. Add to that so many that are gone.

Add Y&R to that.

B&B keeps alot of the same but now they are bringing on a lot of people lately.

AMC just keeps getting rid of the familiar and focusing on the same damn performers or newbies.

It is just an epidemic right now.

When I did my scores I tried basing it on the stories, the balance of the show, the production values, and how often the show keeps my attention.

Y&R still exceeds in all those for me. Even though it had some weak stories.

GH follows a close 2nd with GL in 3rd. They are the only show since November that I can honestly say has kept my attention every day. And that is what moved them up higher.

GL would be so much higher if it weren't for so many new faces but with them it is understandable as they have the lowest budget.

ATWT even though it has been off some lately still gets 4th for me. They would have definitely been higher if their balance was better. The last week or so has pulled them up. If the poll had come a few weeks ago I may have put them in dead last. They definitely would not have been in the top 5.

Days would have been higher as far as quality but they only manage 5th for me. Even though the special affects are somewhat being lessened they are still there and pull the quality of the show down. January has been so boring for the last 2 weeks which pulls it down. Balance has been wayyyyyyyyyy off in January which hurt it.

Unless you watch all nine soaps on a daily basis you can't really say what it deserves or doesn't deserve. You can't base opinions on what happened in the past when you watched. What are you basing your opinions on what you heard.

1. Y&R- 5.2

2. DAYS- 4.8

3. AMC- 4.2

4. GH- 4.0

5. GL- 3.6

6. B&B- 3.1

7. OLTL- 2.8

8. ATWT- 2.3

9. PAS- 1.9

LOL. When Max disses PSNS no one seems to care, but when he disses DAYS many get upset.

Honestly, if we're basing it on quality then the ratings seem perfectly fine to me the way they are. However, I'll admit that GL/GH/DAYS may be a bit higher.

And why the heck should Y&R be pulling 5's or 6's? Please. I thought we were basing this on quality.

Um, why? Because all soaps deserve to be pulling in higher than 2's. We WANT the genre to survive right? Why on EARTH would we start with 4.5s unless we want it to die? The #1 soap, whatever it is, should get a 6.0 rating.