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Does Christel Kahil's Lily act snobby to you?

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Oh, for Christ's sake! I HATE ABHOR CAN'T STAND Crystal's version of Lily because it bares no resemblance to any freakin memeber of the family. On her most uppity day, Olivia had more SOUL, LIFE, FLAVOR than CK will EVER have.

Ya, but TLW is a pro. Her sisterly chemistry with VR just made me all giddy inside.

BTW damn you and your annual trips to Paris :P I'd love to go there :)

Although I did find Drew's "Paris and black people" comment to just be misinformed on his part.

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I loved the chemistry between TLW and VR. Both have flavor. I've seen TLW in other works besides Y&R and she is quite versatile and impressive. I've seen KSJ in other work. He has flavor too. So does Bryton.

What does CK have? Not a damn thing, but rolling eyes and bobbing her head around like some snotty, dumb dumb.

And in case anyone tries to bring up the color accusation. I.. will.. repeat. It isn't about color. It's about skill, presence, flavor, and chemistry. CK has NONE.

Let me put it this way, even current giggly Phyliss has more flavor in her pinky than CK will ever be able to sum up. By God, even Asia, daughter of Jack Smith, showed more flare when she wasn't reading cue cards. LOL

Cystal is a HORRIFIC Lily and I hate that LML is subjecting me to her hosey whine.

France is best in the summer, has a superb metro system, and interesting people who understand that one works to live, not live to work. Although I must admit that after Bush's snafus, I don't proclaim my American-ness the way I used too. Keep away from Paris in the winter. It's not as much fun. The gardens of Chateau Versailles are simply not the same if you're freezing your ass off, not the mention the trek from the train station!

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My Uncle lives in Paris. He's black, but I digress. The Paris factor, in my opinion, seems rooted in the nature vs. nurture rationale. Granted, if Lily spent an impressionable amount of time in a culture outside her primary enviornment, those changes would have been rooted. However, Lily spent only a couple of years in Paris and the location is not sectioned only to the uper crust. It's an array of life that Lily would have been introduced to, but one of that seemed evident when Lily and Dru returned to GC. Lily was mouthing off to Dru in the beginning, mirroring a younger version of her mother but those facets disappeared. The character transformed into this Beverly Hills 90210 rip.

I noticed a shift in Lily when Davetta assumed the role. She didn't appear to cower in scenes with Victoria. She gave it right back.

Underlying my favoritism for DS, I never found favor with CK's portrayal. I didn't buy that a livewire like Dru would raise Whitley Gilbert. It would help CK's performances if she imbued more passion into her scenes.

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I noticed a shift in Lily when Davetta assumed the role. She didn't appear to cower in scenes with Victoria. She gave it right back.

Underlying my favoritism for DS, I never found favor with CK's portrayal. I didn't buy that a livewire like Dru would raise Whitley Gilbert. It would help CK's performances if she imbued more passion into her scenes.

You hit the nail on the head! Bravo!

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Why are people still on the Paris comment? I said that I made a mistake whenever the first person corrected me. Get off it!

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My Uncle lives in Paris. He's black, but I digress. The Paris factor, in my opinion, seems rooted in the nature vs. nurture rationale. Granted, if Lily spent an impressionable amount of time in a culture outside her primary enviornment, those changes would have been rooted. However, Lily spent only a couple of years in Paris and the location is not sectioned only to the uper crust. It's an array of life that Lily would have been introduced to, but one of that seemed evident when Lily and Dru returned to GC. Lily was mouthing off to Dru in the beginning, mirroring a younger version of her mother but those facets disappeared. The character transformed into this Beverly Hills 90210 rip.

I noticed a shift in Lily when Davetta assumed the role. She didn't appear to cower in scenes with Victoria. She gave it right back.

Underlying my favoritism for DS, I never found favor with CK's portrayal. I didn't buy that a livewire like Dru would raise Whitley Gilbert. It would help CK's performances if she imbued more passion into her scenes.

She actually reminds me of the sister on Fresh Prince moreso than Whitley. But good to see someone else that watched Different World :)

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I'm loving all the fan complaints and how everyone's going to be mad until Christel's gone. :lol: It's a shame that you're going to be mad until Christel decides to leave again because I don't think she's going anywhere if TPTB is in charge :D

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Why are people still on the Paris comment? I said that I made a mistake whenever the first person corrected me. Get off it!

Paris was entered into the discussion through your admitted ignorance. It's up for discussion and I chose to form my own assertions on the notion of enviornment having a behavioral influence. It is a legitimate contention regardless if you find CK's sugarwalls the greatest place on Earth next to Disney World. This is a message board. Not the Courts where comments are ommited because it prejudices the jury. You made a comment and now it's being referenced. Life goes on, Drew. Scroll past.

Antoyne, interesting you should mention Hillary Banks. I just got the Fresh Prince DVD Season 1 over the weekend. Lily is this close to acting like her. :lol: But it does reinfoce nature vs. nurture. The Banks, esp. Hillary, grew up in this sheltered living and its exemplified when Will comes to live with them. He's always calling Calrton out for acting the way he does. :P

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Right :rolleyes:

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She actually reminds me of the sister on Fresh Prince moreso than Whitley. But good to see someone else that watched Different World :)

You hit the nail on the head. That's exactly who she reminds me of. I expect Geoffrey to pop out of the kitchen, no, scratch that, kitchenette any minute. LOL!

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You hit the nail on the head. That's exactly who she reminds me of. I expect Geoffrey to pop out of the kitchen, no, scratch that, kitchenette any minute. LOL!

:lol::lol:

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At least Hillary was funny and supposed to be vacuous and annoying.

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It's like that old argument that Bryant Gumble and Al Roker "aren't black enough" because they speak proper English. Omigod, a black person isn't saying "ain't" or "acts" (instead of "ask") and doesn't love rappers! He's not "black enough"!

I know plenty of upper-class white gay guys who say "Hey girl!" and "Aw, hells no!" and "Hmm-mm, no you di'n't!" more than any Y&R character. Does that make them too black? (Or maybe too gay?)

Discuss. :)

P.S. As someone who once interned at Y&R, I'd *love* to be able to say what Christel Khalil was like, but I'll refrain. :)

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P.S. As someone who once interned at Y&R, I'd *love* to be able to say what Christel Khalil was like, but I'll refrain. :)

LOL aww....please dont

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I was waiting for it :lol:

I also said that I couldn't see Davetta, the way she acts, her mannerisms, playing a character that would date a white guy. I still don't. Is that stereotypial? Sure. I will agree that it is. It's my opinion though, just like everyone else makes. DO NOT look down at me for making such a comment when there have been way more harsher things said about Christel on this board. You know who you are.

Chaka Khan married a White man.

Donna Summer married to white man for 35 years now.

Grace Jones married white man, had baby by another white man.

Mary Wilson of Supremes dated singer Tom Jones for 2 years.

Whoopi Goldberg lived with Ted Danson 4 years.

Tina Turner living with White German guy for 15 years now.

Angela Davis (miss AFRO with fist in air) living with White Lesbian for 10 years now.

**SHOCKER ALERT**

IN REAL LIFE---Davetta Sherwood, I believe, is dating a white man. At least I saw her at two

different parties with a white man as her date.

*EARTH TO DREW: Brown beauties like Davetta with "honey-child" mannerisms date/marry white men more than

the white looking European cultured types believe it or not.

Ooops. Halle can act quite ghetto herself and she's with a white guy right now. :lol:

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