Everything posted by Paul Raven
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Y&R June 2021 Discussion Thread
Not understanding the story choices with Summer. Is this the same little blitch that blackmailed Kyle into marriage and banged Billy on a bet? OK. she could have matured since then but hardly to the point of having Tara run roughshod over her. Besides she has several sociopaths on call-Phyllis/Victor - who she could press into action to obliterate the competition. If for whatever reason they needed Summer out, they could have used her innate selfishness as a means of accomplishing this by her not being pleased about Tara/Harrison's inroads onto her 'perfect' life and needing some time away.
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Primetime ratings from the 70's
The fall 1974 schedule. Here's how things were going after 2 weeks in. 1. All in the Family 28.3/50 2. Chico and the Man 28.3/47 3. Rhoda 26.9/49 4. Sanford and Son 26.6/44 5. The Waltons 24.3/41 6. Maude 24.1/37 7. ABC Sunday Movie 22.8/39 8. Little House on the Prairie 22.7/38 9. MASH 22.7/35 10. NBC Mystery Movie 22.6/35 11. Medical Center 22.4/27 12. Mary Tyler Moore 22.1/38 13. Rockford Files 22.1/38 14. Paul Sand in Friends and Lovers 22.0/38 15. Streets of San Francisco 21.5/34 16. Kojak 21.4/33 17. Bob Newhart 21.3/37 18. Disney 21.2/39 19. Policewoman 21.0/38 20. ABC Tuesday Movie 21.0/32 21. NBC Saturday Movie 20.7/35 22. Good Times 20.7/34 23. Manhunter 29.5/36 24. NBC Tuesday Movie 20.5/32 25. NBC Monday Movie 20.5/32 26. Gunsmoke 20.1/31 27. Hawaii Five O 19.9/30 28. Police Story 19.3/34 29. CBS Friday Movie 19.1/33 30. Lucas Tanner 19.0/30 Day 8:00 8:30 9:00 9:30 10:00 10:30 Network Sunday Sonny Comedy Revue Movie ABC Apple's Way Kojak Mannix CBS Walt Disney Mystery Movie NBC Monday The Rookies Monday Night Football ABC Gunsmoke Maude Rhoda Medical Center CBS Born Free Monday Night Movie NBC Tuesday Happy Days Move of the Week Marcus Welby, M.D. ABC Good Times M*A*S*H Hawaii Five-O Barnaby Jones CBS Adam 12 Movie Police Story NBC Wednesday That's My Mama Movie Get Christie Love ABC Sons and Daughters Cannon Manhunter CBS Little House on the Praire Lucas Tanner Petrocelli NBC Thursday Odd Couple Paper Moon Streets of San Francisco Harry-O ABC The Waltons Movie CBS Sierra Ironside Movin' On NBC Friday Kodiak Six Million Dollar Man Texas Wheelers Kolchak: The Night Stalker ABC Planet of the Apes Movie CBS Sanford and Son Chico and the Man Rockford Files Police Woman NBC Saturday The New Land Kung Fu Nakia ABC All in the Family Paul Sand in Friends and Lovers Mary Tyler Moore Show Bob Newhart Show Carol Burnett Show CBS Emergency Movie NBC
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Ratings from the 80's
July 86 At ABC, the daytime vice president, Jozie Emmerich, is taking steps to beef up 11 a.m.- noon, which has been plagued with low ratings and poor clearances. She confirmed last week that the network, pleased with the results of a two week trial run of the new Fame, Fortune & Romance, (11 -11:30 a.m.), has committed to 65 episodes (13 weeks) of the program. It will debut on Sept. 8, with repeats of Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous continuing in the slot until then. Fame, Fortune & Romance is being produced by the TeleRep unit, Television Program Enterprises (concept by Al Masini, who also created Lifestyles), will look similar to Lifestyles and will feature the same host, Robin Leach. The difference, Emmerich, is that Lifestyles sticks pretty much to "possession and travel" themes, while Fame will also explore personal relationships. In its two week run last month, Fame was averaging a little more than a 3 rating, said Emmerich. In the second quarter, Lifestyles averaged a 2.4, which was an improvement over the 1.7 that Hot Streak had been averaging in that slot in the first quarter. ABC earlier announced that a new game show would debut at 11:30 a.m. on Aug. 18. Double Talk will replace New Love American Style, which was third from the bottom in the second quarter with a 2.3/10. Double Talk is a word game from Bob Stewart Productions, creator of $25,000 Pyramid on CBS. Emmerich reported that other game show pilots being considered along with Double Talk will be kept in reserve as possible replacement shows. They include Comedy Club, from Lin Bolen, Bamboozle from Chuck Barris and Catch Phrase from Marty Pasetta. Other game shows in "early development" said Emmerich, are A Question of Scruples from Columbia, based on the board game, and Funny Business from Group W Productions. Despite the changes in the morning lineup, Emmerich said most of the effort in daytime has been devoted to "keeping our serials strong." That seems to be paying off for the network's three hour long soaps, General Hospital, All My Children and One Life to Live, all of which were in the top five for the second quarter. But the network has one half hour soap, Ryan's Hope, that placed in the bottom five. Part of Ryan's problem is poor clearances (usually in the low 80% range), since many stations air a noon to I2:30 p.m.newscast that is more profitable. Emmerich told affiliates at their annual gathering in May that "we really believe in the future of [Ryan's]. Disappointing ratings are no deterrent to our commitment." Last week she stressed that for the time being, the entire five program daytime serial block (the fifth show is the half -hour Loving, which airs after Ryan's at 12:30) was "inviolate." In the coming months, she said, an effort will be made on all the soaps to get "back to basics," and away from some of the "wild and woolly" storylines that have unfolded lately. "We really want to get back to the heart and core," she said, which means focusing on "love, romance and hope." In addition, she said, all the serials will bring back some characters that were popular but left.
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Y&R June 2021 Discussion Thread
Maybe I'm completely out of touch with today's fashions but the women's clothing is horrible.
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Soap Hoppers: The Soap Actors And Roles Thread
KT Stevens Matinee Theater A Woman Named Ruby 4/25/56 Dorothy Green Matinee Theater The Red Sanders Story 12/26/55
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Soap Opera Cast Lists and Character Guides- Cancelled and Current
As The World Turns additional characters Gar Kramer real estate agent who gave Natalie a job at Jay's bequest 1976 Stan McKellar Susan Stewart's lawyer in Emmy's custody battle 1975 Delores Graves friend of Joyce who testified at her trial for killing Greg Paget 1975 Dr Fisher Jennifer Hughes doctor 1974 Mrs Rusconi nurse at hospital where Joyce gave birth to Teddy 1975
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Ratings from the 80's
July 1986 At NBC, the network's daytime ratings for the second quarter were the best in seven years. "Three years ago," said NBC vice president of programming, Brian Frons., "we were in fourth or fifth place," referring to when NBC was three rating points or more behind its two competitors. Now less than one rating point separates the three networks. But NBC has problems in daytime, including its loss of the rights to repeats of Family Ties which have been getting its schedule off to a fast start at 10 a.m. Ties goes into syndication in January and will leave NBC's daytime schedule then. In the second quarter, the program was tied in its time period with CBS's $25,000 Pyramid, with a 4.5/19. (The 10 -11 a.m. period is programed by ABC affiliates.) Frons said he is still considering what to do once Ties is gone. Among his choices are several game show pilots he revealed to the affiliates at their meeting last month, along with three others in earlier stages of development. But Frons also said he was exploring the use of another hit cornedy from the prime time lineup as a shortterm solution for 10 a.m. But that alternative, he noted, means that "sooner or later you have to replace it" when that show goes to syndication. If he can come up with a hit game show, said Frons, "we could be set for 10 years." NBC's serial block is in its best competitive position in years. Santa Barbara, only two years old and competing against two top 10 programs from 3 to 4 p.m., General Hospital and Guiding Light, grew almost 20% in rating and 16% in share in the second quarter. Days of Our Lives, (I -2 p.m.) is making a serious run at ABC's All My Children for first place in the time period, having beaten or tied its rival for the last five weeks. A real question mark among NBC's serials is Search for Tomorrow, the oldest soap on the air which celebrates its 35th anniversary later this year. Compared to a year ago. Search is off both in rating and share and is third in its time period (12:30-1 p.m.). Frons admits the program's situation is "dicey." But, he said, Search has rebounded from an 8 share last December when a new executive producer, David Lawrence, came on board, almost back to where it was a year ago-a 12 share. One of its problems is a clearance rate in the low 70% range. But Frons says he won't consider canceling the program unless "it dives to a 7 or 8 share and stays there." But the key to how things take shape in daytime in the coming months, suggested Frons, is the 2 -4 p.m. time period. That's where the biggest HUT (homes using television) levels in daytime appear. ABC dominates that period now, with General Hospital, which was up almost 7% in rating in the second quarter, and One Life to Live, which was up almost 12 %. The gains of NBC's Another World and Santa Barbara appeared to come at the expense of CBS's Capitol and Guiding Light. Another World (2 -3 p.m.) was up a tenth of a rating point, while Capitol (2:30 -3) was off three tenths of a point. Santa Barbara was up almost 20%, while Guiding Light was off 9% in the same 3 -4 time period. Sustaining the momentum, said Frons, is something NBC must do to remain competitive and close the gap further. "We can't stop. We must keep growing." What he comes up with to replace the popular Ties at the top of the schedule next January may be an important factor in NBC's future momentum.
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Primetime ratings from the 70's
November 1974 Rhoda (CBS -TV Monday 9:30 -10 p.m.), one of hit new shows of fall season, chalked up its biggest numbers so far when it went to 60 minutes Oct. 28 (preempting Maude at 9 -9:30) for show titled "Rhoda's Wedding." It hit 35.1 rating and 51 share, compared to 18.2 rating and 26 share for first hour of Pittsburgh- Atlanta football game on ABC and 18.1 rating and 26 share for first hour of Burt Reynolds movie, "Shamus," on NBC The producers wanted to hold back on Rhoda getting married but Fred Silverman wanted big numbers for the November sweeps - a 1hr wedding ep with the Mary Tyler Moore cast included.
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Y&R June 2021 Discussion Thread
In the latest SOD Sean Corrigan says his return is short term. Is this just a distraction for Abby as they try to work out how to salvage the surrogate story? I've noticed that Victor/Nikki had have no scenes regarding the Summer/Kyle drama. Surely they would be invested in their granddaughter being mucked around by Jack Abbott's son?
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Y&R: Old Articles
As soon as I saw that it came back to me. What surprises me is that Aaron appeared as he could just as easily been a voice on the other end of the line or no voice at all with Lorie having a one way chat. Maybe there was more to the scene,perhaps Lorie didn't want to see Lucas and Aaron was more involved. At least Lorie had a doorman. Now people just turn up anywhere. Lucas was not alone. Snapper was also a fan of that type of dialogue. As were a few others. I think Bill liked that pyschological trippy LA type speak.
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Ratings from the 80's
Over the years the numbers representing a ratings point changed a lot so a 16.1 in 1953 meant far fewer viewers than a smaller number years later.
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Y&R June 2021 Discussion Thread
So you have to wonder what's next for Sharon and Rey, unless Josh plans to replay the Adam/Sharon attraction again? Surely not. All they've done recently is talk about the trip to Miami. Same with Lilly/Billy and Nick/Phyllis. There is nothing happening there. Devon is a sounding board for Amanda. Faith/Moses is hardly played. Jack is now the supportive grandpa. At least having Stitch back provides some interest in the Abby story. Josh needs to get some conflict happening for those couples and have them doing something. Get Imani and Nate happening. I'm a bit behind but puzzled by Ashland getting this terminal illness, especially where he just got the news and immediately told Victoria who was 'a bit 'too bad, so sad'. Really this should have been played for more drama. Ashland is a character with such potential and his involvement with Victoria is a new dynamic and they are killing him off? Same with Kyle/Tara/Summer. Kyle has been too quick to embrace fatherhood. Summer has been cast as the victim where she should be a bit stronger in her actions. Perfect chance to deal with Jack's crap parenting. Jack should have reflected on his history and wonder if Kyle is ready for this. Traci would be the perfect sounding board for her brothers. Josh's execution and pacing can be so frustrating.
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Soap Hoppers: The Soap Actors And Roles Thread
TV suggestions Joanne Linville Edmund Lydeck Keith Pruitt Phillip Levien Nick Kiriazis
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Y&R Actor returns
When you look at Eileen as Ashley in her early days and compare her to Ordway's Abby the contrast is clear. Maybe Stitch is returning to reunite with Abby and they leave GC...
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Y&R: Old Articles
Ep # 2310 Tape date Thurs April 8 1982 Air date Fri April 16 1982 Only 8 days ahead! Cast Lorie Aaron Patty Jack John Lucas Sally Snapper Chuckie Joe Chris Nikki Kay Alison Earle Kevin Stan Maid (Esther) Extras Kate Linder's first episode. At that time she was not given a name. At some point, the story goes, Jeanne Cooper just threw in the name Esther. The Aaron character was in scenes with Lorie and Lucas. Does anyone know more?
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Soap Hoppers: The Soap Actors And Roles Thread
Louise Barclay Hope Alden's Romance Hope Alden Jim Boles My True Story 'Innkeeper' 12/26/55
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Y&R June 2021 Discussion Thread
And Summer's scheming could backfire and create problems between her and Kyle.
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Soap Hoppers: The Soap Actors And Roles Thread
Walter Kinsella Backstage Wife 1949 Dorothy Lowell Second Husband Celia Clarke My True Story
- GH: Classic Thread
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Y&R Actor returns
He does have some connections to the current cast and could provide complications for Abby and Victoria. Maybe hook up with Sally? Anyway it all comes down to a well structured story...
- GH: Classic Thread
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Ratings from the 70's
Feb 78 ABC -TV, which has been steadily ganing ground in daytime ratings against long time leader CBS -TV, appears to have edged into the number one position with a string of wins since the first of the year, The most recent Nielsen standings show ABC with an 8.2 average for the two weeks ending Feb. 3, with CBS pulling a 7.9 and NBC -TV a 6.6. A number of factors have probably contributed to the turnover. ABC's recent gains in TV affiliates and the resulting improved clearances haven't hurt. All three networks lost daytime viewers with the drops in homes using television over the last year, but ABC lost less than its competitors. According to ABC's figures, its HUT levels in the fourth quarter of 1977 were 3% off what they were for the same period in 1976, while CBS was off 13% and NBC 14 %. Probably most importantly, ABC has made a number of changes in its daytime schedule in the last year, with the goal of establishing a solid block of soap operas in the afternoon All My Children was expanded from 30 minutes to an hour last April, and General Hospital and One Life to Live both expanded from 45 minutes to an hour Jan. 16. ABC is convinced the strategy has worked, and the numbers don't contradict that view.
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Edge of Night (EON) (No spoilers please)
I'm not sure about the last years but in the late 70's and early 80's, many of the affiliates that ran Edge at 4pm after GH did well in the ratings.