Paul Raven

Thanks for posting. Checked the AW Homepage JULY 22, 1965 (EP. #306) Pat flashbacked to her days in Bedfordtown and related to Jim and Mary everything that happened to her there. She said that Mary's idea, that Liz drove her away by saying Pat should be sent to Europe until people forget what happened, was wrong. Production Notes: "Bedfordtown again-composite of previous tape." Notes: Tapes of the Bedfordtown sequence from EP. #269 and #270. Alex and Karen Gregory's appearances in this episode were cut.

That anecdote came from a book/study about BTS on GL that was once on the net but since disappeared.

But to just ignore something like that is an insult to the viewers-not that TPTB care much about that. If Paul were still around, they could do a story where they discover that Dylan was not their son-in fact that's why he chose to go on that undercover mission. Paul, Nikki and Sharon could come to grips with that and then Paul and Nikki could debate about trying to find their son and either decide to let things rest or go searching and discover he died an heroic death. End of story. Loose ends tied up.

Please , the only mention of Dylan that needs to happen is for it to be established he was not Paul and Nikki's child. And that the 'real' retcon child is dead.

Neat find and lovely picture.

I think it was jusrt a case of two strong willed individuals clashing. I'm sure they admired each others work but were used to executing their vision their way. also I think ABC's interference might have rankled Marland. Despite what is said about P&G, it seems they were quite supportive of their headwriters. ABC perhaps not so much. Look at all the changes Loving went through.That speaks of too many cooks. Agnes was used to dealing with that. I remember that during his GH days, Doug talked to Agnes before a meeting with Jackie Smith ABC VP. Marland was on a high as GH was shooting up the ratings and getting great critical response. Agnes wryly told him to 'fasten his seatbelt' so to speak and sure enough Jackie came on like gang busters about the state of the show and how her maid had said the last few weeks had been boring etc and they were in trouble. Gloria Monty was also used to dealing with the network and she too cashed with Marland. So maybe after 2 years of that Doug had enough. He was happy to return to CBS and P&G.

The Story of Holly Sloan is a fairly obscure NBC soap that debuted in the dying days (1948)of the radio soaps.It replace Masquerade, an Irna Phillips show that was fairly short lived also. Fewer new shows were being introduced and cancellations were becoming more common. Only The Brighter Day which debuted in 1948 had any long term success, Nonetheless,I hope you find this article of interest. NBC's "The Story of Holly Sloan" is believed to be the first radio serial based on a successful novel. At the same time that Rupert Hughes' novel "Static," from which "Holly's" story was adapted, began to run in a national magazine, another novel devoted to the seamy side of the radio world appeared. But for Mr. Hughes, the magic power of appeal to the human heart was the most impressive aspect of radio. For his heroine, Mr. Hughes chose "Holly Sloan," a small town girl involved in a small town romance of bitter difficulties. He gave her, instead of a living mother, a loving old "Aunt Keturah," who had been blind from birth, and had found in the radio a wide universe of adventure and delight. To her blind aunt, "Holly" sings little songs as they sit on the front porch of an evening. When at last "Holly Sloan" takes flight from her village tragedies, she drifts into the radio world and becomes a singer. At her first audition she is overcome by mike fright, and in her desperation, knowing her "Aunt Keturah" is listening, closes her eyes and sings softly to her blind listener. This gives her voice an irresistible magic, for in a sense the radio audience, too, is blind. Mr. Hughes says, "It was my great fortune to have that warm hearted and brilliant radio writer, Ted Maxwell, take up the novel as the foundation for a radio serial. It was my further great fortune to have the role of 'Holly Sloan' brought to life by that splendid actress, Gale Page, with her uncannily beautiful gifts of art and song." Miss Page's Background Gale, born Sally Perkins Rutter in Spokane, Washington, close to thirty years ago, traveled the route from a girl's finishing school, in Piedmont, California, to air prominence by way of stock company shows, a singing engagement at Chicago's. Palmer House, and NBC's staff as a sustaining vocalist. In 1939 Gale was givena screen test by Warner Brothers. The test was so successful that Gale was immediately signed and moved to Hollywood, where she was one of the studio's leading young singing actresses for several years. Just before the war, Gale was at a swank party, and met the talented concert pianist and composer Aldo Solito de Solis. Today she relates her first thought at that meeting . "That's the one and only man I'll ever love." Now the Countess Aldo Solito de Solis and mother of four children whose nicknames read like an operetta cast, (Tony, Baba, Lukey and Mina,) the attractive brunette actress lets pictures take a second place to the radio work which can be combined more easily with running a home and doing almost all of her own work. The de Solises recently discovered the joy of living in the San Fernando Valley, and even manage to do their eating and cooking out of doors. "The role of 'Holly Sloan' is the most exciting I have done in radio. I feel the character is always interesting and challenging to portray," Gale tells people. "The whole show has a wonderful tone to it." "Holly's" aunt, " Keturah," is played by one of the best known character actresses and a pioneer of network radio, Georgia Backus. Even before Georgia graduated from Ohio State University as an E n g l i s h literature major, her tenacious ambition for an acting career led her to roles in amateur productions and actual paying jobs with Columbus stock companies. Immediately upon leaving school she hurried away to New York for stage and early radio work. When husband Harmon Alexander, a radio writer, moved to the West Coast, Georgia had the opportunity to combine picture making with her radio work. The Alexanders, too, live in San Fernando Valley, where Georgia runs her home and experiments with her new hobby of ceramic abstractions for jewelry and art objects designed to use in her home. Georgia is as enthusiastic about "The Story of Holly Sloan" as is the rest of the cast. Of her role, she says, 'The fact that 'Aunt Keturah' is blind is incidental. She is a sincere woman, lives her own life, and is very different from most characters in daytime serials." The two love Interests in "Holly's" life are "Johnny Starr," vice president of the New York broadcasting company for which "Holly" works, and "Clay Brown," the hometown boy who followed "Holly" to the Gotham City. These are played by Bob Bailey and Vic Perrin respectively. Long before Bob Bailey did his sleeping in a trunk backstage, the theatrical tradition was a strong one in his family. While Bob was still in Chicago in high school, he established himself in radio circles. With the inevitable move to California for active radioites, came a 20th Century -Fox contract in 1941, making Bob one more of the cast with a movie background. Bob is confining himself to radio, having done no picture work following the war and a serious illness. One of his best -known roles is that of "George Valentine" on "Let George Do It," from KHJ. An amateur cabinet maker and carpenter, Bob recently managed to acquire an apartment for his beautiful ex -model wife and six -year -old daughter. After putting in a slate fireplace, new pine walls, redecorating and refinishing the entire interior, the Baileys decorated their attractive apartment in EarlyAmerican antiques and reproductions which they made. Bob's role of "Johnny Starr" in "The Story of Holly Sloan" re-unites him with Gale Page as half a romantic team. Both were well known Chicago players, doing the roles of a young married couple on "Today's Children." Hometown boy "Clay Brown," who is being comforted these days on the show by Louise Arthur in the role of "waitress Sally Brown," is played by Vic Perrin. Unlike practically all the rest of the cast, Vic did not get his foothold in radio anywhere else. He started right here in Hollywood by way of NBC's parking lot. The Wisconsin boy who had trained through four years of university dramatics and speech had no intention of jockeying cars in and out of spaces for a living, but being on the scene let him know when auditions came up. In rapid order Vic attended ah audition for staff announcer at NBC, won the coveted spot, became ABC chief announcer, became typed as an announcer rather than an actor, and quit. With his new "freelance" status came acting jobs, and today Vic not only does "Clay's" part in the "Holly" serial, but he works on "Red Ryder," "Masquerade," "Dr. Paul," and other local shows. Vic falls in step by living in San Fernando Valley too, with "the girl he didn't want to meet." Out here on a visit in 1939, Vic was urged repeatedly by mail from his mother to call on a friend, who, his mother assured him, was a perfectly lovely girl! Grumbling, on the last day of his California visit, Vic did call on the girl. Six months later, upon his graduation from Wisconsin U, Vic married her. Bob Griffin and Louise Arthur, as "Wilbur Ramage" and "Sally Brown," complete the Chicago roster of those who work on the show at complicating "Holly's" life. "Wilbur Ramage" is the amorous head of the big network "Holly" works for, and "Sally" is busy befriending "Clay," who at present is in a lonely turmoil.

Even Kate Linder was wheeled out for 2 episodes to celebrate 40 years when she never appears.

She ran over Paul and Christine... And slept with Billy while married to Jack. Assorted blackmail schemes etc

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Yes to the first comment but Phyllis is awful and therefore deserves everything she gets. And did my eyes deceive me, but when Phyll(in a hideous top that defies description) was chatting at the Dive Bar with Summer there were actually extras in the background!! Will Sharon finally get some customers at CL?

Maybe there was some trepidation at TGL when they moved to TV but CBS already had two successful soaps underway with SFT and LOL and they were probably happy to be chosen to be part of a new medium that was taking off. Meanwhile I think those associated with Right to Happiness, Stella Dallas, Ma Perkins etc were probably hoping they would be next to transition. The two scenarios are not comparable really.

Whether he's a recast or a new character matters little. If Ashland or Rey are anything to go by, St John will come on strong, peter out and then be dropped.

They seem to have no idea what to write for these characters.

Brenda definitely didn't have the sarcastic and hard edge that Eileen supplied. Peter tried hard to bring a touch of Terry to Jack but eventually the character was softened. Jess filled Brenda's shoes admirably. The next standout actors for me were Tricia as Nina and Victoria as Drucilla. Ashley's Mac stood out. One character I could never get into was Brittany-so much story for an unexciting actress and character.

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P'tosha was a great addition to the cast and was nominated for an Emmy and can't get screentime. They couldn't have her back for a day here and there to add some substance to this story? Quite embarassing really.

Agree that Eileen with several years of soap under her belt felt the time was right to make the break. Just wondering whether recasting so soon was the right move? Maybe it would have been better for Ashley to be off the canvas for a year or so to rest the character before a recast. It was a natural time as Ashley was now widowed and at the end of that story. Do you think Ashley off the show was viable at that time? On another note, I wonder if Bill decided with Eileen leaving, to kill off Steven. Maybe he had other plans but thought it was better to give Brenda a fresh start. Steven was really a nothing character and like Blade and then Joshua very bland who presented no real rivalry to the likes of Victor. And they each had a crazy ex coming out of the woodwork.

Yes sorasing Nick so soon ultimately was short sighted. Nick was born in 89 and was a teen lead 6 years later and married by 97. To fill the gap Billy was then sorased to be the new teen in 99 when again he was only 6 years old. If the writers had been a bit more creative the show would be in better shape later on. Maybe Matt Miller's son shows up in GC looking for his dad who has vanished. He stays with Victor and Nikki as a surrogate son and plays out the Nick stories. Jennifer Foster was born in 1981 and could have returned in the mid to late 90's. She could have fallen for Brock's previously unknown son, thus setting Kay and Jill against each other in a variation of Mac/Billy. Re Cricket : do we have any episode counts from that time to see if she actually led the appearance counts or did it just seem that way?

In 1965 when CBS was thinking of adding All My Children at 12pm (sponsored by Proctor and Gamble) that would have displaced Love of Life to 11.30 am. American Home Products which sponsored LOL ,were not happy and pressured CBS not to add AMC. Meanwhile NBC stepped in and offered AHP the 12 pm slot for LOL. CBS backed down and LOL stayed at midday. So there was a possible scenario where Love of Life on NBC would be competing with All My Children on CBS.

John Beradino signed a 5 yr contract when he began on GH but Emily was on a yearly contract. In 1965 she insisted on daily billing before re-signing and John did also. i remember seeing their names for years whether they appeared or not. Later Rachel Ames, Peter Hansen,Denise Alexander and Craig Huebing were credited everyday I think. When did that stop? Mac Carey and later Frances Reid were billed on every ep of Days. Did anyone else have that perk?

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Re The Fosters and the Brooks. With JLB gone, Peggy never really clicking and Chris and Leslie very much locked into their relationships with Snapper and the 4L's, I agree that the time had come to drop the Brooks. However I think the Fosters had more longevity. Bill kept Jill on, even going through 2 recasts to keep the character there. He moved her away from Derek/Kay and it worked. Greg was still viable but the Howard McGillan casting was all wrong, If Wings had been recast better, Greg still had a lot to do. All purpose lawyer in town, confidante to Jill , ex to Nikki and available for romances with Ashley, Julia etc. Liz should have stayed on with 2 kids on the canvas, her ties to Kay and possible friendship with Mary Williams. Julianna was too good not to be there. If Robert Colbert had agreed to recurring he could still pop up from time to time and a link to the Brooks family would remain. Maybe he could be used as a talk to for John Abbott. Then down the track a SORASED Jennifer arrives as a new teen. Maybe a friend to Cricket. So plenty of options for the Fosters.

NbC' s failure with L&T and FRFP examined in hindsight lead in so many directions. NBC had failed to launch a successful soap since 1965. Hidden Faces, Bright Promise, Somerset, Return to Peyton Place and How to Survive a Marriage had all bitten the dust in the previous decade. Meanwhile ABC has launched All My Children, One Life to Live and Ryan's Hope and CBS The Young and the restless. So there seemed to be some default in NbC's skills in that area. Debuting a new soap from behind was never going to be easy and the 12.30 timeslot had 2 soaps in place, so why NBC thought they had a chance, especially expecting Rauch and Lemay to handle L&F as well as the 1 hr AW. Then to take the show off the air to retool and come back with a new title and not much else, and then to use the 1pm slot that they hadn't programmed for decades.. Maybe at that point The Doctors should have been moved to 12.30 or 1 and L&F/FRFP moved into the 2.30 slot. What do other think?

Did some research... The 1pm timeslot was where NBC programmed FRFP. Lovers and Friends had played at 12.30 pm. But as NBC had not programmed in that slot since the 1950's many affiliates were reluctant to show it in that timeslot. So the Ch 4 station played it at 9.30 am on a one day delay. So it officially started on a Tuesday after the characters had appeared on AW on Monday in the 3pm timeslot. Guess affiliates showed whatever they liked on the Monday in the 1pm timeslot. So NBC were trying to hype the show but I don't think the odd scheduling was the way to do it.