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I was loving Silk Press Sheila calling out Hayley. Game recognizes game.

Dorothy McGuire was of the same generation (born 1916) and her post-Y&R roles were primetime guest star and made for TV movies. Dorothy acted until 1990 and she passed away in 2001. Hahaha, that's funny. Susan Flannery took all the no talents back to acting school. John McCook had to step up his game opposite her. Not just that, but John McCook is a Lead Actor Emmy winner. No way would he have won if he was competing in the 1980s against the likes of Larry Bryggman or in the 1990s against the likes of Michael Zaslow. In the 1980s Tom Selleck was the hotness of CBS primetime. Susan Flannery is five years older than John McCook. The age difference wasn't that apparent in the Bill Bell years. James Storm was Neil Fenmore and Bill Spencer Senior. I don't think Bill Bell intended for Bill Spencer Senior to be B&B's villain but his initial characterization comes across as a more villainous version of Stuart Brooks. Seeing Stephanie and Bill Senior in scenes together, he was more her equal I thought.

KT Stevens had a career ranging from Golden Age Hollywood to theater to primetime television to daytime television, but post-Y&R she didn't act much and she lived until 1994. From what I've seen of Vanessa, KT Stevens could have worked on one of primetime soaps but it wasn't meant to be. Thanks for the info. Hahaha, that's funny.

Hahaha, that's funny. Between Y&R and B&B, John McCook made the guest star rounds on the Aaron Spelling hit factory (The Love Boat, Dynasty, Hotel); Magnum, P.I.; and Murder, She Wrote, but I don't think any of his characters were soap opera actors. You're welcome. I wasn't alive for all of Vanessa's run but after seeing the 1981 classic she was in, I was hoping we'd see more of her during the classics but we didn't. In that 1981 episode, Vanessa stole the show from Victor and that's no small feat.

@Khan Vanessa Prentiss was on May 1976 to November 1981, so a little over 5 years.

Yeah, Lance was not a prize. I take it you're not a fan of John McCook even on B&B. Lance was supposed to be suave and sophisticated, whereas Lucas was rugged and elemental. I saw a scene of Victor and Dennis Cole Lance and I could not take Lance seriously as a rival for Victor.

Sharon Case appears to have had some bad surgeries and bad injections, plus her voice has changed.

Silk Press Sheila is the gift that keeps on giving. Same here.

The budget issues are really apparent in the final season.

I've never gotten John McCook's appeal and he has never worked for me as a romantic leading man, and that's on both Y&R and B&B.

John O'Hurley was 26 in 1980 so I think a bit too young for Lance.

Total wishful thinking, but how about Michael Zaslow? I think the timing works, as his first run on GL ended April 1980.

Writers/producers (ABC order): Bill Bell, Robert Calhoun, H. Wesley Kenney, Douglas Marland.

Even if Knots Landing continued past 1993, it would have been killed in 1994/95 by ER.

Yes. Nancy Curlee was on the writing team until March 1994. I don't know when Stephen Demorest left the writing team.

Budget mode.

From what I've seen of Dennis Cole as Lance, he was not a very good actor. The four Ls quad got derailed with John McCook departure.

Donna Reed came on when Dallas got glamorous and corporate to compete with Dynasty and her styling reflected that of a wealthy Texas oil family matriarch. Barbara Bel Geddes styling reflected Miss Ellie's roots as a rancher's daughter.

I think most of us are either watching out of habit or hate watching at this point.

Won't be celebrating until JG is gone from Y&R for good.

Yeah, it felt so random.

Season 1 was a good start that built the foundation. The resolution to Carlo Agretti murder felt like a cop out. I think Richard Channing intro as the new villain in season 2 was exactly what Falcon Crest needed to reach the next level. Angela/Richard first meeting was for me the pivotal moment that set everything in motion for the rest of the series. Falcon Crest peak was Lana Turner first episode until the end of the war crimes storyline. When I watched Falcon Crest, I spotted a good amount of soap elements.

My top four overall (ABC order): Eric Braeden, Susan Flannery, Beverlee McKinsey, Michael Zaslow.

From what I've read online and seen in interviews, Victoria Principal was close with Jim Davis so I can see why she thought of the Jock years as the best years. Not long after Dallas got glamorous and corporate in response to Dynasty blowing up.

Dallas tanked in the aftermath of Bobby car accident. Venturing into international intrigue didn't work. By the end of the season Dallas lost CBS highest-rated scripted program to Murder, She Wrote. Larry Hagman got less big and bad when Angela Lansbury savagely knocked him off the throne at CBS.