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JG undoing all the actual positive accomplishments he actually made makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Killing off Heather and Cole, bringing back Cane in the most ridiculous way, and Alison Lanier walking out on the show…obviously JG taking 10 steps back after moving one step forward. Why couldn’t he just let Cole and Victoria just settle? How much longer is Failiy Erin going to be on the show? She seems to getting reduced airtime and would add to JG’s even more pointlessness.

Ah the Marc Cherry years. They really mark a contrast to the show’s first 4-5 seasons. The show turned into more dramedy fare between Rose and Miles and whole Cheeseman ordeal, Stan and Dorothy becoming the show’s “Will they or won’t they?”, and Rose learning her husband had a fling with Blanche were all a bit much and didn’t always work. The later 91-92 episodes that have those Designing Women-esque zingers about Clinton, Trump etc. feel a bit out of place for a show I always think of the Reagan 80’s but it was a sign of changing times I suppose. The Bea/Betty situation has been out there for years and years now, none of it was new as Betty admitted after Bea’s death the two of them had different personalities and just didn’t get along. Now whether or not Betty could be a real life Sue Ann Nivens…who knows. None of them bashed each other publicly while they were alive or talked bad about the show and Betty even had the upmost respect for Bea. I agree with @VeeI say a case of 4 old school actresses who showed up and got the job done.

Looks like the entire series leaves Amazon Prime again in 14 days, along with FC and Dallas. Despite the tedious ads I've been watching it on Plex. It seems to come and go from Amazon Prime every few months so I finally just gave up and went to Plex and it's been reliable.

I totally misread this and thinking this was about Roark Critchlow and I went “Huh I don’t remember him on Y&R at all!” 😅🥴 Same. I thought the Travis character was fun although the change from Pratt to Sussman abruptly led to the character being written off mid-story. Didn’t he randomly chose to hookup with his ex-wife and leave town with her?

Totally agree. I think this why nowadays I definitely prefer both Knots and FC over Dallas and Dynasty…characters like Abby, Greg, Richard, and Angela were a lot more 3-D and dynamic than what was on either Dallas and Dynasty.

It’ll be interesting to see if there’s any drop off by those utterly disappointed in the Cane reveal. JG he really streeetched it out for a Friday June 13th reveal. Sabotage on us as viewers lol? I also wonder if old ex-Lane fans also tuned in.

JG really needs to either retire or be asked to retire, whichever comes first.

LOL it made the most sense to me! For whatever reason, and I’m tagging @YRfan23 @slick jones @Taoboi and @ranger1rg but I now get the sense that JG has been trying hard to emulate the Chuck Pratt era for the past few months now. Jordan & Ian redux was one thing but the SAW and the Restless story was something right out of Upchuck’s alley. Now this whole thing with Dumas feels like a repeat of the Paragon Project storyline all over again. Yikes. I’m dreading to see what happens next.

I was thinking the 🚽 emoji might be more appropriate for what is going on here on Y&R 🤣

A round of 💯 for everyone. This reveal is [!@#$%^&*]. I enjoyed Billy Flynn at Days but I have already gotten the sense just from day one Flynn is getting bored already. Underwhelming is the key word. Maybe it would be different if Cane was written as nasty, sadistic, resentful, spiteful, bitter because of his ultimate rejection from GC back in 2019 while still being a con artist he always was. But none of those traits are present. Besides, didn’t it turn out Cane’s backstory was all a lie and he aided Colin in stealing Devon’s money? I know Devon got it back but something also feels missing here. This is embarrassing to watch.

Cane will definitely be DOA if Dumas turns out to be Cane. Doesn’t make sense and would be a pointless exercise but that hasn’t stopped the JG before from doing pointless stories. The other theories outside of Cane I have seen floated around is Dumas is John Abbott III, Brad Carlton’s lost son, or that Billy Flynn’s Dumas will be revealed as the real Adam in hiding since Chloe blew him up and Mark Grossman’s Adam has been an imposter. But any way you slice it, the story has dragged on wayyy too long, the buildup has been severely lacking and it’s not even interesting, mainly thanks to this low-energy writing of JG.

Just reveals just how bad and damaging all those idiotic retcons and ret-retcons were. @YRfan23 The show made a point to have Cane was been born in 1976 and even had the whole “Cane’s 32, Lily is only 21…” discussion and ordeal. Then even went out of the way to age him enough to be Nina’s contemporary…. Cane in exercise really should have been just plain old a young naive Chance back in town getting tricked and seduced by Amber before connecting with characters his age like Lily and maybe even Colleen, but we can’t have logical established characters can we? Hell had this show left well enough alone we’d probably be discussing the latest Billy & Mac drama in 2025 instead. But hey maybe on the bright side JG will give us a scene of Traci and Billy Flynn’s Cane in bed together when JG chooses to revisit that plot 😄

This show is total garbage time. And the Dumas reveal hasn’t happened yet?!!? So much for a “Friday the 13th” reveal party…

Thanks @DRW50!!!

I recall @Chris B asking about this but here is an interview Sheri Anderson did with SOU back in the fall of ‘89: Here is an article that I think is interesting, it is an interview with Shery Anderson, screenwriter of the ninth season THE WRITE STUFF: FALCON CREST’S SHERI ANDERSON: FROM DAYS TO NIGHTTIME By Richard Spencer Soap Opera Update, 1989 : At a time when the success of nighttime soaps is shaky, Sheri Anderson, former headwriter for DAYS OF OUR UVES, ANOTHER WORLD, GUIDING LIGHT and GENERAL HOSPITAL, makes the jump to the evening format with some new ideas to help strenthen the CBS California vineyard based soap opera FALCON CREST. "FALCON CREST is going to have a differnet tone that it never had before," headwriter Sheri Anderson expiains. "The people that I am working with are kind of an interesting mix. The executive producer, Joel Sumow, did the first years of MIAMI VICE and THE EQUALIZER, Bob Cochran, a Harvard MBA,and Cyrus Nowrasteh, who has done a number of features, are story editors. I am co-porducer, with a history in daytime, so we are a real different mix. We all kind of balance each other out in different ways. I am sort of the emotional side (coming from daytime) and they are more the gritty side." A lack of focus is what Sheri attributes to FALCON CREST's problems the last few seasons. "No one , seemed to knwo that the characters' motivations were. Pilar was a real good example. No one seemed to know what she wanted. This season it is clear that Pilar wants Lance. That is really her dream and goal tokeep Lance. She will do anything to do that. She will be making some sacrifices thís season that really jeopardize her relationship with Lance." While Pilar's character may be strongly in place, Maggie's is not. How will the show restructure in light of Maggie's drowning? " We are not trying to replace her, but we are adding another kind of strong heroine character. That character is Laruren Daniels. She's very earthy; married to a construction worker. Lauren. is the sister of Michael Sharp, Gregory Harrison's new character. "Michael is an extremely powerful adversary to Richard Channing. He will be more cynical than Richard and less emotionally motivated. For Michael it is all power and money. The audience will be more sympathetic toward Richard. He will be going through hell," Sheri reveáis with doom in her voice, "...Paying for his past sins " The complete opposite of Richard or Michael's intensity is the the new character of Charlíe St. James."Charlie is every woman's foolish choice," Sheri character sketches. "He's kind of indescribable; charismatic, totally unpredictable, charming, unnervtng. He's coming in as a love interest for Emma. He will be the first man to make Emma feel like a woman. She's really not victimized by him...she’s addicted to him. Charlie's presence will make her a little less flakey this season." But Emma is not the only one in store for major personality changes, also in the categroy is Frank. "We arebringing back somebody from his past," Sheri reveals "there will be a great secret that will come to ight." Speaking of characters from the past, are there any Sheri would like to return? "Everyone is fond of Ana-Alicia in her original role. At this point we don't have any plans to bring her back because we have some other character that are going to take the forefront." And if one thing is going to remain the same, it will be what Sheri recognizes as the theme of FALCON CREST "Quest for control of Falcon Crest. We have people trying to take control, and they are all taking it for different reasons. Some are emotioanl, some are revenge, but they each have a different eason for which they want Falcon Crest. And that is really the pivotal center. It is very earthy." Keeping the core of lite show intact is not the only thing nighttime shows have to do to stay interesting and acording to Sheri"I din't think night time shows have kept paces with changes in the viewing audience," Sheri answers by analyzing what exactly is primetime soaps* problem. ln datyime, you do over the years the shows stay on, but you are adapting to what people are accepting:faster-paced, or slower, or addíng more comedy, depending on the audience, and what they are buying. I don't think some of these shows in primetime have done that "We are trying to make the show as much episodio as it is continuing. We are cutting down the number of scenes in each act to get the audience more involved. But some of the shows, and this happens in daytime al so, don’t let the characters really grow," Sheri certainly made chracters develop during her daytime career, but especially on DAYS OF OUR LIVES, which is the source for her favourite stories of her careen ”When Víctor carne to Salem and revealed tha the was really Bo’s father, it caused such a ripple effect for Kim, Shane, Román, Bo, Hope, Caroline and Sean. I also liked bringing Kayla back for Patch.” Having written for Kristian Alfonso' s Hope (DAYS) and now Pilar on FC, Sheri distínguishes between the two characters. "Pilar is a woman, but Hope was growing up. Hope was more innocent and Pilar is not Pilar has an intelligent strength where Hope did all the wrong things for all the right reasons." Pilar wíll be the only one retuming from her family, while Angela Channing’s appearances will be limited (per Jane Wyman's contract). "But Richard will be taking a very strong role which is very similar to Angela Angelad presence will be felt in every epísode/ Sheri informs. A lot of people complained about the women of FALCON CREST being wishy-washy They certainly aren't this season Sheri emphasizes. "Lauren will be strong, especially after her brother Michael steais Richard’s children and places them with her, Frnak’s step daughter will be very devious, indicateive of Kathleen Turner in “Body Heat” And Gregory Harrison is fabulous," Sheri reports with joy. "He is so different from his character on TRAPPER JOHN, M.D He is very similar to Michael Douglas in the film 'Wall Street'. FALCON CREST viewers will find a much richer textrae, getting away from the glamour and really going to substance and style." Sheri concludes, "it will be a show to watch, We are trying to bring in a new audience, and at the same time, respect our past audience."

Funny I randomly saw Kami’s lengthy post about the 44th anniversary of the Walton’s finale last week pop up in my news feed on Facebook. A few inaccuracies to her post but overall it was pretty insightful and interesting to read.

So true...Hackney might have had a story on FC with Richard being an old lover of his, but reveals herself to be a Cartel member and blackmails Richard with something into doing her dirty work LOL. But of course Richard had his hands full with the double trouble sisters Ms. Jones and Ms. Braxton that season. 🤣

I like to call her an FC-reject character 🤣

I would enjoy it if Swan popped up on BTG as an old one time friend/mentor of Anita’s for a cameo. This is just 🤢🤢🤢🤢

Duncan McKechnie Is Mariah’s mystery man….???? 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢

Thanks @YRfan23 Wow I didn’t realize the cast has gotten that tiny either which is absolutely pitiful. Surprised that Budig is still on as Taylor barely watched any lol tbh but nonr of the recent daily recaps ever mention her anymore I figured she was out the door soon.

Thanks for this. I probably remember Empty Nest more fondly than a lot of folks, even in our age group. I remember mainly watching the later seasons whenever I was home on Sat nights simply because Sophia was added to the cast, even though the show seriously lost its momentum after Kristy McNichol left. Always surprised how long NBC just let it run and disappointed on how it became lost/forgotten over time. A few years back once was discussing old tv shows with some folks and they brought how they remembered Kristy McNichol in Family, but none of them remembered Empty Nest until I pushed pertinent details on them. Fun fact, Grace Zabriskie, best known for her work on Twin Peaks, appeared in both the series premiere and series finale. (BTW @kalbir I’ve come across some very interesting 1995-96 weekly ratings & commentary look out for them in the next couple days in the 90’s ratings thread!) The 1980-81 season was NBC’S nadir for everything wasn’t it? Primetime was a disaster, daytime was in the toilet, News & Today show were forgotten about, SNL nearly on its last ropes etc. think Johnny Carson was the one thing pushing NBC through and even his show went from 90 mins to 60 mins. Glad they did give Hill Street Blues a Chance though. Strange CBS Friday nights the Incredible Hulk was only at #46 leading into the #3 and #1 shows. Benson didn’t look too great either. The 8:00/7:00 Fri night slot really was cursed for the duration of the 80’s and 90’s wasn’t it, save for Full House? NBC wouldn’t have a successful newsmagazine until Dateline in what 1991, 1992? Funny though as of 2025 only the original recipe 60 Minutes still does well, as its competitors 20/20, Dateline, Primetime Live or companion shows like 48 Hours are either dead or useless junk to fill out a schedule.

Wow it’s official, Gatwa is out… https://www.avclub.com/ncuti-gatwa-addresses-doctor-who-finale-statement DW fandom on Reddit is in a furor over how things went down and apparent last minute scrapping of the original ending. Also…Billie Piper again really?

Oh yes I tuned back in once Ron was gone and have been enjoying what I’ve been seeing so far. This upcoming week is probably going to have me bawling though! As far Y&R I may a little harsh haha but the month started off with Summer’s abrupt departure (You go AL!!!) and it’s been downhill ever since. The one bright spot has been MM’s return along with Traci and Ashley returning to reflect, otherwise I felt the month as a whole was cumbersome to get through, especially since there wasn’t any momentum when there should have been.

Here is my May Sweeps/Sleeps grades: BTG: A- Days: B- Y&R: F B&B: Z-