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It’s bad there’s a tiny part of me that does hope there’s been a massive coverup at least for Damian’s death and he’s still alive. Perhaps JG’s successor will reveal this along with Chance being alive once Cane is murdered by crazed Juliet in that Veronica Landers style story I proposed last month?

Caught a few minutes of today’s show and WOW why does Billy Flynn look like he is 50 years old from the styling choice? My God.

If JG had his way he’d probably kill off the entire cast except for Victor, Nikki, Adam, Chelsea, Billy, Sally, Kyle, Claire, and Phyllis and eliminate all sets except Crimson Lights and the Newman ranch. That way every day can be about Victor & Adam plotting against Billy and Kyle. Phyllis only survives to just to torture us as viewers.

NBC really was struggling wasn’t by this point? Only 4 shows in the top 30 with their only 10 top entry being their Sunday night movie title. Was this the 1st ABC scored as overall #1? Seems the older CBS sitcoms from the early 70’s were starting to age and flail here. AITF dropped to #11 after 5 seasons at #1. Obviously a show like Rhoda lost a good chunk of its viewers with its bad creative decisions this season but even MTM’s final season, Carol Burnett, Maude, Bob Newhart, and Phyllis all look like they’re floundering. @Paul Raven was correct CBS moving kind of struck a knife to their once highly successful and high rated Saturday night line up especially moving shows around on a whim.

I’m so over JG at Y&R he’s basically becoming worse than each of our other notorious regimes with each passing day. Killing off Chance to me signals how bad JG is as a writer. Are we even sure he was talented in the first place? Asking @DRW50

We all know with Days’ taping schedule that actually means six years 😆 I’m so happy for Days to continue to thrive and with the Ron era behind us I’m hoping for the continued best. Now @Taoboi where are my “Josh Griffith Dismissed!” and “Thudley Retires!” headlines??

Meanwhile over here I just feel sorry for the cast having to act out this garbage all summer long. Obviously JG must be channeling his inner JER with this whole story just playing out in the same location and the same dialogue being repeated over and over and over again and yet barely a day or two have gone by. Like Days and Passions 20 years ago under Reilly’s pen you probably could miss a whole week of Y&R and not miss anything at all at the moment. At this rate wake me up when September ends.

I seem to recall it was suspected (or outed?) the the producer in question was Christopher Cullen, who had been a long time director turned producer for GL but had a history of working at both OLTL and AMC as a director/production assistant in the late 90's when McTavish was at both shows before at so he would have been familiar with her history. Cullen later had a bit of colorful run as a producer for Real Housewives of Beverly Hills where he was known to instigate some drama. LOL that would be wild if someone did that to her. Apologies all I felt compelled to go back and read this mess tonight here and gained some new insights after seeing some recent McTavish comments. 🙈 The memoirs are basically like a spooky campfire story, except one about about a very tormented, twisted soap writer who ended up very bitter.

Not going to lie I literally teared up and choked when I saw this. The OG soap diva. At least 3 generations of my family including myself lived to see what that darn Lisa was up to on ATWT, maybe 4 if you include my great grandmother. @DRW50 Well said! Can’t add much more except may Eileen RIP after such a long and vivid life.

There’s already rumors flying on Reddit 😑 I actually came to back to see if the site was up to see if this was legit.

Thanks so much @Errol!! Appreciate all the hard work that goes into running the site.

In Y&R history not since Latham in 2007. Obviously JG has hit rock bottom but ultimately there’s no one in line for a replacement anytime soon. Let’s see how far this bottomless pit goes down.

Backstage drama is right @DRW50 I do also wonder how the show would have gone on had Cochran and Marcus gotten along better too. I love the gothic feel of Seasons 2 and 3 and over all dark/moody ambiance with ongoing mysteries. Unfortunately once Marcus left and Cochran was fired the following producers Peterson and Whitaker subsequently gave us bright 80’s pastels and average melodrama. I think Freilich and Surnow came closest to recapturing that feel, except with mixed to negative results. Season 8 was just a very terrible attempt to go back to Season 1.

Lord I could totally see JG trying to write a Veronica/Sarah the maid story with Juliet for Cane and Lily….wait I shouldn’t speak things into existence 🤣

I don’t think CK has that much power considering on how much JG has stifled the Lily character time and time again despite CK’s tremendous growth as an actress. Remember CK only came back full time once DG/Cane was gone. I can’t imagine she’s entirely happy especially as she thought Lame was a dead end for Lily. I wonder what kind of lies JG told BF LOL so far he really isn’t working out is he? He’ll be gone within a year and we’ll all be wondering why, just why.

Lord. This show has been stuck in this horrible forest maze for over a month now and now it looks like the show has just killed off its most promising character since Audra. JG is beyond [!@#$%^&*] incompetent or he really is a sadistic individual. Or both.

I also feel like Neighbours just never recovered the disastrous Susan Bower era in which so many characters were sacrificed for shock and ratings value.

Probably blowing smoke about nothing. I haven’t paid any attention to this fool since he blew the lid on Y&R’s Susan Walters’ secret return and Days’ Marci Miller’s exit, and then tried to blame sabotage and other people for leaking such stories. What a joke. Speaking of ancient dead guy Mariah kissed, can either @slick jones or @dc11786 confirm Michael Swan is only the 4th actor to appear on all 4 CBS major soaps (Y&R, B&B, ATWT, and GL)? Only other ones I’m aware of that finally fit this bill were CLB, Zach Conroy, and unfortunately Brian Gaskill?

Bad acting or not, I’ve been patiently waiting for the day Liam finally died since his terminal illness was announced lol. Is this it? I agree with @Melroser as I predicted this too a while back. SC has been over acting for years now like a cartoon character with all of his exaggerated facial expressions. BTW with Luna dead what did ever happen to creep Remy?

Thanks @janea4old I was about to answer this as it being set in either Prince George’s County or Charles County in Maryland. Given the lack of Martin ever seeming to be in either Congress or having any congressional staff whatsoever I do wonder if it would have been easier to make Martin the House Delegate from DC instead of being a full blown elected Congressman from Maryland when he very seldom seems to interact with the public and what not.

I’m so about to just start hate watching just like B&B, although I know it will be also like watching paint dry on the walls.

Typical JG writing…taking one step forward and then 12 steps back.

Oh absolutely. TGG still remains my favorite sitcom of that era. I give TGG the edge for being such a warm and comforting show with great characters whilst also being laugh out funny at the same time. It certainly holds up for me well in terms of both its comedy and its attitude toward social issues and human beings in general. One of the elements in which it remains FAR ahead of its time however is in portraying senior citizens. The characters live rich, dynamic, and vibrant lives - so many contemporary shows still fail at this when it comes to the elderly.

Wow! This breaks my heart to see his passing, too young and I didn’t even know he had been ill. I first remember him from Profiler before I fell in love with him on Charmed and later on early Nip/Tuck. May he RIP.

The bad thing it’s already happening with Summer and her new mysterious love interest 😂